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squirreloso 05-11-2008 10:18 PM

Installing door without frame?
 
Id like to put up an interior door that seperates my foyer to my living room. Its just a standard entryway without a door frame.
I was wondering if i can just put three hinges on the door and screw it into the entryway without a frame and then use a ball catch at the top to keep the door closed, the door knob would be a dummy knob.
Is this possible?

cheesefood 05-12-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by squirreloso (Post 18949)
Id like to put up an interior door that seperates my foyer to my living room. Its just a standard entryway without a door frame.
I was wondering if i can just put three hinges on the door and screw it into the entryway without a frame and then use a ball catch at the top to keep the door closed, the door knob would be a dummy knob.
Is this possible?

I'm no expert, but unless you're screwing directly into a stud you're going to have problems and may ruin your wall. Also, the door most likely won't fit the port so you'll end up with an ugly entrance.

Have you thought about a curtain? Saloon doors?

Daryl in Nanoose 05-13-2008 09:26 PM

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You can get the hardware for a door like mine or here's a idea, take a bifold door hardware kit and install it onto the opening and door. Cut the upper track so it's just big enough to exept the top pin and a little breathing room for adjustments.

What is the opening made out of, wood or plaster or drywall or ? As mentioned above unless its a stable substance your going to have problems keeping the door aligned.

glennjanie 05-13-2008 09:44 PM

I think I would try to get a prehung door to fit the opening. It would be just so much easier to get it to work right.
Glenn

Daryl in Nanoose 05-13-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by glennjanie (Post 19018)
I think I would try to get a prehung door to fit the opening. It would be just so much easier to get it to work right.
Glenn

Come on Glenn, wheres your sence of adventure :D :D :D

doors2fit 02-16-2010 01:48 PM

Go with a pre-hung door you'll have far less problems

Doorguy4ya 02-17-2010 12:13 PM

you have several options for a finished look. You can do as Daryl did and mount a Bi Fold pin at the top and bottom of the door, you can install a bi fold door in the opening , you can get a sectional door for the opening (they look like curtains) or use a piano hinge (this runs along the length of the door and can be surface mounted to the face or the edge).

You're best option is just to simply buy a prehung door to fit right into the opening, as everyone else has said. its the simpliest solution.::D

Wuzzat? 02-17-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by squirreloso (Post 18949)
I was wondering if i can just put three hinges on the door and screw it into the entryway without a frame and then use a ball catch at the top to keep the door closed, the door knob would be a dummy knob.
Is this possible?

You need a stop molding to prevent the door from swinging the wrong way if your hinges only allow a 90 swing.

mrc59 02-24-2010 05:58 AM

What about a swinging door?
 
The swinging door opens both ways (in and out), and uses a special "hinge" mechanism that mounts on the floor (and the top jamb). You can get any slab or lighted door that will fit the entrance. You didn't mention whether you wanted the door there to simply hide looking through, or for weather stopping. You won't get a great seal with this door, but it will work great. I'll try to attach a picture of ours, between the kitchen and dining room if you'd like.

I see Daryl shows the hardware. But our door isn't a bi-fold. It's a 3 over 5 lite French door with a natural finish. Looks great!

Jeff_HomeOwner 09-21-2011 07:01 AM

I have a very similar situation where I actually have an entry way that is framed for a 28" door that goes into my basement. I have removed the door and jamb. I recently finished my basement and was having trouble getting furniture etc. into the narrow door width. Removing the jamb gave me a few more inches making it just wide enough. Now that the basement is finished, I'd like to cover the entry way without narrowing the interior width of the door, i.e. no door jamb. I've considered something like a storm door that mounts on the outside of the door, but that would be tacky for an interior door.... Any ideas if you didn't want to get a pre-hung door AND it was sturdy enough because it was framed for a door?


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