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1victorianfarmhouse 03-06-2013 12:03 AM

Victorian Window Replacements
 
In my 1895 house, I have some windows that were replaced with newer ones 15-20+ years ago. They need to be replaced (leak, clouded, etc) while the original windows from 1895 have held up better.

Are there any particular manufacturers of new wooden window replacements that the experts on this board recommend? I'm not interested in the metal/plastic casement jobs that are in all the big box stores. Salvage stores seem to have later windows that are the wrong dimensions (too wide).

Thanks,

vince

nealtw 03-06-2013 12:12 AM

There people that still build them just like the old one with double sealed and all the extras.
Found this one. http://www.hoffmeyersmill.on.ca/web/hoffmeyers.htm

1victorianfarmhouse 03-06-2013 12:14 AM

Geez, you're fast! I went and looked at Pella's site, and wasn't very encouraged.

Thanks, Neal!

vince

nealtw 03-06-2013 12:55 AM

You should be able to find an outfit localy. These guys are still running old equipment in small shops and are usually busy enough the don't need the web.

1victorianfarmhouse 03-06-2013 09:29 AM

Yes, I have some friends who would know of such places. I'll check with them, too.

nealtw 03-06-2013 11:41 AM

You do understand that you will never duplicate the service of the original windows. Your house was built without insulation so the windows were only a little cooler than the rest of the wall. The victorians also hung nice heavy drapes which somewhat stopped the warm moist air from getting to the window, so less condensation. The old windows also leaked alot and when the wood burning stove and coal burning furnace needed fire air, nice cool air was pulled in around the windows. Cool air is dryer and when is came in it would warm up a degree or two and absorb moisture along the way.
Your very best windows today may give you an R value of 5 and the furnace supplies nice warm moist air under the windows in most houses, condensation is almost gaurrenteed.
Newer windows have two problems, the seal in double sealed, fails over time, may or may not be solved now but the sealed unit itself can be changed without changing the frame.
The other problem is installation. Condensation and water leaks need to be planned for so water is given a way to get out. The new installation proceedure has some different names in different areas, we call it rainscreening which applies to the whole house.
http://www.chambers-house-build-it.com/INSTALL-WINDOWS.html
This is simular to what we do except we don't put the treated slats behind the flange and we are supplied with 1/8" thick plastic horse shoes to put behind the flange, allows water out and 1/4" plastic spacers under the window to keep it centered in the hole.
On the inside, no spay foam or insulation stuffed around the window as R value is zip anyway when you look at the loss the window itself has. Instead they tuck 1/4" foam cord just around the inside edge and caulk that.
On the outside now alot of the siding guys are using 1 1/2" stock for trim and cutting a rabit on the back of the outside edge to cover the edge of the siding, evan with vinyl they hide the J trim and looks great.


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