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Scorask · 10-10-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RipTheJacker

I just got through removing the paneling. It looks like most walls possibly all will have to be redone. Some started crumbling when I removed the paneling. I'd post pics right now but all my furniture is still obstructing the view of the walls. I've gotten an estimate from a friend when he seen the walls with the paneling still on and he said that it would cost around five or six hundred dollars. I'm willing to spend this much but I would also like to do it myself and save some money. I've done some mud work with my father on drywall so I know I could definitely do that. Just looking at these walls I'm thinking I could do this myself but once I remove the drywall I might think differently. I am probably going to need insulation and I don't know how I get that behind the lath and plaster(someone tell me). I hope the insulation isn't expensive. I'm going to get a few estimates from family friends that do this type of work.

That old plaster will just continue to crumble, its really hard to patch. If you look closley at the old plaster you will see hairs in it, they call it Horse Hair Plaster, at least where I come from they do. The hardest part will be removing the old plaster and slat boards, it just makes a mess. and forget about getting insulation behind the slat boards, it not going to work, just start fresh.

RipTheJacker · 10-10-2008, 01:22 PM

Are you referring to the drywall as plaster? Because the drywall was crumbling not the plaster

RipTheJacker · 10-10-2008, 01:22 PM

and does anyone have a picture of what a house frame looks like when you remove the lath boards?

RipTheJacker · 10-10-2008, 01:25 PM

And can someone tell me why they built houses this way. what are the benefits of lath and plaster as opposed to 2x4s? also why is removing lath and plaster so frowned upon? is it just because it's messy?

**inspectorD** · 10-10-2008, 01:40 PM

Just plain messy, get a good 3m filter cartridge respirator. Put a fan in the window and blow all the dust out.
Just take it all down to the bare studs, this will be your best way to go about insulating and sheet rocking and any other issues you may not be aware of.
Going over plaster is like putting on a bandage without cleaning out the wound. Start fresh, trust us, this results in less headaches. Many folks can insulate and Sheetrock themselves, these are the easiest of the DIY trades besides painting.
GO to the library for a FREE book on old construction if you are worried.
I have been doing it for 25 years, we can get you through this.

RipTheJacker · 10-10-2008, 01:52 PM

Thank you. I really feel like i can do this if you guys guide me through. Im only 18 so im a total novice but at least I have youth on my side. You guys could be like my mentors. Being a novice I need EVERY SINGLE STEP AND INSTRUCTION AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE. Even a list of all I would need would be great. I'm going to box up all the electronics in my room and remove them. Plus my bed and furniture and then I will remove this lath and plaster once i get a respirator. Of course me posting pictures will help you guys help me.

Edit: I was just reading the lath and plaster article on wikipedia and it said after the last coat of plaster was applied and dried that the walls were ready to be painted 0_o??? You mean people just painted over this stuff? It had to look atrocious.

and can somebody tell me which one of these respirators if any is suitable for this type of work?

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=186091-429-95090-80000&
detail=&lpage=none

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=83346-429-95115-80025&lpage=none

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=75490-429-99485-80000&lpage=none

I'm hoping the second one is appropriate because it looks cool.

**inspectorD** · 10-11-2008, 05:08 AM

The first one looks fine, and is very reusable for other projects.
By the way, everyone needs to start somewhere.

Just look at Square Eye...he started when he was 4 years old, probably hiting his dads table with a hammer.

Sorry I couldn't help it.

He's good.

Square Eye · 10-11-2008, 07:22 AM

I have the second one myself. Actually, I have 2 of them. The thing you have to remember to do with that type of respirator is to wipe them dry before you store them. I usually remove the filter cartridges and wash mine after a job. You don't want anything growing in there where you put your face! Inside the mask, there's a layer of thin vinyl, it's folded over inside to make the seal to your face, you need to make sure you wipe that out every time you wear it.

As for whacking my dad's table... I don't remember doing that, but I do remember, he would not hold a nail while I tried to whack it with a hammer

RipTheJacker · 10-12-2008, 01:30 PM

I just got back from Home Depot. I got a regular white respirator for when I remove the drywall and the more expensive multi purpose respirator for when I remove the lath and plaster. Does this sound like a good idea or should I just use the multi purpose one for both? I also got some nice work gloves. With that said now I need tips or directions for removing this the drywall and lath and plaster if anyone would be so kind. More so the lath and plaster because I assume drywall is pretty straight forward.

T88M3 · 10-12-2008, 04:20 PM

As far as the respirator goes. It's your body. If you don't mind coughing up plaster later on, then you can skimp.

As far as removing the laths and plaster.. HAMMER TIME!!

And maybe a wonder bar for the nails.