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cghill 07-22-2012 04:25 PM

Amana dishwasher won't drain
 
So my Amana dishwasher (model adb1200aws) isn't fully draining water at the end of the cycle. It certainly appears water is being drained, just not all of it, as the water isn't up to the float assembly. The dishwasher is capable of draining, its simply not draining all the water. At the end of the cycle, I just hit "Stop/Cancel" and it reactivates the drain pump to fully drain the rest of the water. I've checked a lot of the basic things. Here's what I know:

  • The drain tube is clear, and not the problem.
  • I do not drain into a garbage disposal, so there's no issues related to that.
  • The drain hookup also doesn't use an air gap (basically the drain tube just rests in an open ended vertical pvc pipe)
  • I've disassembled the drain basket and made sure there was no food clogging any of the screens leading up to the drain pump.
  • I've replaced the drain pump.
  • When I "Stop/Cancel" at the end of the a cycle (when water is still left) it runs for the appropriate amount of time (2 minutes).
Any ideas or suggestions for what else could be wrong would be appreciated. Thanks!

jeff1 07-23-2012 07:32 AM

Hi,

Quote:

The drain tube is clear, and not the problem
Checked all the way from the d/w to the house drain?

Quote:

Any ideas or suggestions for what else could be wrong would be appreciated
Draining is still slow/restricted? Over filling? Drain cycle is to short ( during the wash cycle, not the drain and off cycle )? Fill valve weeping in some water all of the time? Water is accidentally going backwards into the d/w through the drain hose?

jeff.

cghill 07-23-2012 11:35 PM

The only part of the drain tube I couldn't see is where it loops up, but everything else is perfectly clear.

As far as draining slow/restricted, unfortunately I don't know what a "normal" speed would be. I didn't really pay attention to how fast it pumped before. Is there a way I can measure this.

As far as overfilling, same as above. I don't know how full its supposed to be. I've made sure the float assembly can move up and down.

I'll run a full cycle tomorrow and see how long the drain cycle is at the very end during a regular cycle. I'll also check to see if the water is empty in the dishwasher right after draining. This should tell me whether or not water is leaking in.

Thanks!

jeff1 07-24-2012 07:16 AM

Can't upload it here ( won't let me )....wire diagram has timing chart for when things occur and for how long. I will try from home later.

jeff.

jeff1 07-24-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff1 (Post 75416)
Can't upload it here ( won't let me )....wire diagram has timing chart for when things occur and for how long. I will try from home later.

http://www.applianceaid.com/pdf/adb1200aws.pdf

jeff.

cghill 07-25-2012 10:05 PM

I ran a quick wash today. Some very interesting things. Everything ran fine up through the heated wash on the diagram. Then the dishwasher only drained for 1 minute instead of 2. It then moved on to the heated rinse just fine, but went for like 25 minutes or so (I'm assuming it combined the heated rinse and rinse? Not sure what Rinse and Disp is). At the end, it only drained from 1 minute again instead of 2. Then, when it should have been done it went back to washing. That's when I stopped it.

What could be causing it to do this?

jeff1 07-26-2012 06:15 AM

Only 2 things that I am aware of that can/will add or subtract to the cycle times is the turbidity sensor and control board...

http://www.rcappliancepartsimages.co...--00987779.jpg
Sensor, turbidity Manufacturer Number 99002650

http://www.rcappliancepartsimages.co...9-01025371.jpg
Electronic control board Manufacturer Number 12002709

They work together.

jeff.

cghill 08-11-2012 10:57 PM

I ordered the turbidity sensor you linked here, but when I went to install it I realized that the electrical connection on the current turbidity sensor is different than the one on the new one. I have no way to hook this up that I can see. Any thoughts?

jeff1 08-12-2012 07:47 AM

How is it different?
Looked up by the model# posted ADB1200AWS

http://www.rcappliancepartsimages.co...--00987779.jpg
Sensor, turbidity Manufacturer Number 99002650

Unless the parts breakdown is wrong?

Diagram shows the wiring to it...
http://www.applianceaid.com/pdf/adb1200aws.pdf

jeff.

cghill 11-10-2012 01:52 PM

Ugh...this issue just won't die. So, I ordered the control board thinking that it might be the problem instead. When it arrived, I realized it was the wrong part too. It turns out I had the wrong model number for my dishwasher (it is ADB1600AWS, not ADB1200AWS). This is why the turbidity sensor didn't fit right either.

Regardless, while going through the documentation I found some information for the existing control board. It had a diagnostic test you could run, and I ran it. Everything took the correct amount of time, and I paid specific attention to the two 1:00 minute drain cycles (they were back to back). I heard the drain motor turn on, and could hear water draining from the line into the drain, but after the two minutes there was still a lot of water in the bottom of the dishwasher.

I noticed that it certainly sounded as if water was draining much faster when I manually canceled and forced the drain cycle. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm giving mixed reports here, but I can't figure it out either. The drain cycle seems to be running the correct amount of time, but its not draining near enough water. Any thoughts?

The first thing I thought is maybe the drain is clogged on the side of the dishwasher where it loops up and I can't see it. The tube I'm using is opaque, but I can visually inspect the rest and I don't see any clogs, but I can't see where it loops up besides the dishwasher. I'm really running out of ideas here...


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