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wolfenstien 03-18-2008 08:49 PM

Already asked 50 times today I am sure
 
I have searched the forum and read the few threads i could find about removing ceiling popcorn..... What my questions are: Use Hot water or warm water? How saturated should I get the ceiling? I need to do sections at a time right?
I got my sharp putty knife out tonight and scraped off some on the ceiling I want stripped and and it is messy, but I had to scrap the same area many, many times before I got to the drywall under the popcorn. The popcorn came off in a powdery form, not in strips. In my bathroom which I will be tackling next (and you fine folks will have your hands filled with questions for that room) parts of the popcorn is coming off in strips, not like in the other room I scraped.... After I wet with water, will it come off in strips like in my bathroom?
As an applicator what do you suggest for the water? I can use a regular spray bottle, or a chemical sprayer tank.... or maybe I should use something else....?

Thanks

triple D 03-18-2008 10:36 PM

ohhhh popcorn!
 
I'm sure you have been advised of the possibility of asbestos, and the years it was used in those ceilings???? So I use a spray bottle with hot tap water. If the ceiling has been painted, you can knock the tops of popcorn off with a board by scraping it across ceiling to expose inside soft material before you spray. This will let water in to do its job. Let water soak a good five minutes or so. Just heat room up for a few hours after your done scraping, this will help dry sheetrock. If you have asbestos questions, fire away. Good luck.....

Square Eye 03-18-2008 10:37 PM

The temperature of the water doesn't make much difference. As the water passes through the spray tip, the temperature of the water will drop dramatically. The water will penetrate the texture and will loosen it. It should come down in strips as you scrape your trowel across it. Don't get it too wet though, the drywall could soften and sag between the joists!

wolfenstien 03-18-2008 11:27 PM

Yes, please tell me about the chance of asbestos. And how do I get it tested... where would i take a sample? I have cut holes in 2 of the rooms that did not have ceiling lights to install fixtures.... The ceilings all have double layer drywall, except the bathrooms, for ceiling heat (of which I have fully disconnected from the breaker panel). I have breathed alot of the dust from cutting the holes in the ceilings.... House was, I believe, built in 1964.
What all was asbestos used in? I thought it was just used in fiberglass insulation....

wolfenstien 03-19-2008 05:26 PM

Also... if you would.... i have a tub of joint compound.... is this the same as the spackling I have been using to fill the nail holes and even out the wall paper I painted over? Can I use the joint compound to fix the ceiling once I scrape off the popcorn?

Square Eye 03-19-2008 05:31 PM

The joint compound is perfectly suited to the smoothing you will need to do after removing texture :)
It should actually be stronger when set, than the spackling.

wolfenstien 03-19-2008 08:29 PM

how about the asbestos? what is the likely hood of this having asbestos in it?
How do I get it checked? I have been scrapping it down all day...
One of the joints is all messed up, had staples holding the joint tape up before they popcorned it... I pulled the staples (there was a crack visible before I touched it) and the tape sagged, so i got under it to pull it down, and it shows abunch of crap under it.... I am wondering if I can just plaster it with joint compound to cover it up and it hold, or if I need to put tape back up on the joint before the joint compound....?
Thanks

triple D 03-19-2008 09:34 PM

Check This Out!
 
www.naturalhandyman.com They have what you need for DIY asbestos removal guidelines. Good luck, given the year of your home, its almost certain its there.

Square Eye 03-19-2008 11:43 PM

When you have a very wide crack or a really rough or deep joint, a fiberglass tape will usually help stop the cracking. Use the fiberglass tape first (it's a mesh with a sticky side so it stays in place) then cover it with compound.

Sometimes it's better to just cover and seal asbestos, or what you think may be asbestos, rather than do a complete abatement.

wolfenstien 03-20-2008 09:08 AM

Ok, I talked to my uncle who i bought the house from, he said that his uncle is the one that did the popcorn ceiling in the mid 80s.... so from the info I read on the naturalhandyman site anything after 1980 should be free of asbestos...
I went ahead and finished ripping half the ceiling down.... I want to paint half, move everything in the room to the other side and rip it down and paint it.
Thing is.... I have the walls painted in the area that I just did the ceiling in... so once I clean up the ceiling holes that I did with my putty knife and that joint I mentioned already...
How would you recommend I paint the ceiling without getting the white paint all over my blue walls? I have a cloth down on the floor to prevent anything on the floor, but I am not a painter so i am not quite sure how to go about painting the ceiling without getting it all over the walls....


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