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gghrt000 02-09-2014 01:41 AM

installing peel and stick vinyl tiles
 
Sorry if it is a nooblet question as I really am. I just picked up the style selections stick vinyl tile 12x12 inc size from local hardware store. THe online guide and paper guide inside the packet mismatch, however it calls for underlayment or primer before installation and after that just start laying the tile one after another. However I am wondering is there a need for any grout? Because I am concerned of the water seal between the tiles? Could it be possible to get a water between vinyl tiles if no grout applied? Thanks

samfloor 02-09-2014 08:45 AM

No grout. Those are best for just a temporary installation. They are usually poorly made, will shrink over time and have a very thin wearlayer. you can make them stick better by using a primer. and yes, water can get between/under the tiles.

gghrt000 02-09-2014 10:04 AM

what type would be recommended for kitchen and bathroom then?? I see existing one is also vinyl.

guyod 02-09-2014 01:02 PM

I have seem the stick tiles last for years and others months It all depends on what surface you are attaching them too. A new sheet of luan 3/16 plywood is ideal.
If you want to stick with vinyl. I would get a solid sheet of vinyl or stickem tiles that overlap each other. The tiles glue to each other and not floor and creates much better water tight seal.

samfloor 02-09-2014 01:58 PM

Use an IVC type sheet vinyl. They are very DIY friendly and can be put on a floor that is not perfect.

gghrt000 02-09-2014 02:56 PM

What is ivc type BTW?

samfloor 02-09-2014 04:35 PM

Fiberglass backed. It's very easy to install.
http://www.vinylflooring.org/movie.html

CallMeVilla 02-09-2014 09:18 PM

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I've seen it done both ways. A Newbie might find peel-n-stick easier but Sam is always right ... the vinyl is a better product and tile is the best.

Just had to put down some peel-n-stick on a laundry room for a rental. Used a Henry's product as the primer, then laid the tiles in rapid fashion. They (obviously) do not require grout ... but water can get under the tiles. The advantage is that a damaged tile can be taken up and replaced. Vinyl sheets suck because damage is hard to repair.

gghrt000 02-10-2014 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CallMeVilla (Post 99986)
I've seen it done both ways. A Newbie might find peel-n-stick easier but Sam is always right ... the vinyl is a better product and tile is the best.

Just had to put down some peel-n-stick on a laundry room for a rental. Used a Henry's product as the primer, then laid the tiles in rapid fashion. They (obviously) do not require grout ... but water can get under the tiles. The advantage is that a damaged tile can be taken up and replaced. Vinyl sheets suck because damage is hard to repair.

just picked up this today from home improvement store.

gghrt000 02-10-2014 02:57 AM

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thanks, i think i ll stick with the one I purchased. For first timers like me I think this will server good. I dont expect to last for 10 years but 2-3 years down I might be doing whole remodeling anyways.

I peeled open the old vinyl from kitchen and washer and drier area (attachment below), the washer dryer area has another vinyl tile so I am thinking to peel off both. As for the type of floor which I am trying to determine, I can not say for sure, however I knocked with hand and hammer and the way it sounds looks like a cement floor to me. Waht you guys think can you tell by just looking at pic?


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