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04-18-2012, 06:49 AM
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Is the sub floor nailed to concrete slab, no basement, no crawlspace?
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04-19-2012, 07:36 AM
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Yes, particle board is nailed to concrete and it had a slight bulge which transfered to the oak I beleive. I'm hoping that water from the surface is what found its way down into the subfloor and not a wicking from below.
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04-19-2012, 05:32 PM
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If you ever watch Holmes on Homes, he had one that had a wood floor over concrete that had failed twice. It had vapour barrier and all so they spent a bit of time trying to find water coming from where ever and ended up tileing.
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04-20-2012, 07:10 AM
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Thats what I fear I will have to do, but I'm going to wait and see what happens. The other thing is, I'm renting out the space and I hope it doesn't become an issue while I'm renting it.
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04-20-2012, 07:28 AM
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The biggest problem you have is you don't know the condition of the concrete below.
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04-23-2012, 07:30 AM
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Well with all the rain we just had, I probably will see what happens next, tile would have been so preferable which is probably what I will end up with.
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04-23-2012, 08:10 AM
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Partical board never ever should have been used as a subfloor. It will wick up moisture like a sponge, swell up and turn to oatmeal.
Your looking at removing everything down to the slab and starting over for flooring to have a chance, including tile.
Real hard wood over a slab is never a good idea. Engineered floor would have been a better choise if someone wanted real wood looking floors.
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04-24-2012, 05:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption
Partical board never ever should have been used as a subfloor. It will wick up moisture like a sponge, swell up and turn to oatmeal.
Your looking at removing everything down to the slab and starting over for flooring to have a chance, including tile.
Real hard wood over a slab is never a good idea. Engineered floor would have been a better choise if someone wanted real wood looking floors.
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I agree, real wood is not a good idea below grade over concrete.
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04-24-2012, 06:09 AM
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The slab that its on is not below grade, its a kind of situated on a rocky outcropping, in soil and rock but nothing dug in the dirt, its kinda propped up on maybe 1 to 2 layers of cinder block in front and becoming slab like going towards the back, probably to level it. I wonder, does partical board dry out?
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04-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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If it was removed and left outside it would dry out.
But it would be use less once it does.
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