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Old 06-23-2014, 11:02 PM  
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There was a separation between the person who has done it before and the person who wanted free labor. It was my fault I showed up thinking "we" had it all planned out so I didn't double check the work that was done without me.
When I showed up I found out that the plans had been changed and when I was looking at the plans I thought the deck was going to be a full 12" higher than where they actually want it. I only have weekends free so sometimes I try and help other help themselves... what can I say.

I forgot to say thank you to you all that have provided advice. As someone that is constantly giving away free labor and advice I do truly appreciate knowing there are others out there like me. Even if it is a bit snarky ;-)


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Does your family own a level? Honestly, I am reading this and wondering how the hell this could have happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-r12l904ow

Or you could have rented a laser level! Try this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INGdeoB9jYU


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Don't mind Villa, he gets a little grawly when he hasn't been liked for a while.



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Projects done. Here is how it turned out.

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Looks great

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Thanks! For some reason the smiley faces with beers seems appropriate. 98 degree weather made this deck way harder than any other I have ever done.

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Looks great, what did you do with the high post?

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Thanks! For some reason the smiley faces with beers seems appropriate. 98 degree weather made this deck way harder than any other I have ever done.
We'll bring the happy beer smilies if you bring the beer...whens the party.

BTW, looks really nice, good job!
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Looks great, what did you do with the high post?
Believe it or not the inspector calculated the loads and it passed with a 4x4. the loads where sufficient.... color me shocked. BUT that only means it passes code. After finishing up I did a fair amount of human testing with around 600+ pounds (3 chubby guys and 1 skinny guy) all jumping up and down in as close to the same spot and sure enough not even a little bit of bend. So now I leave it up to father time to show me the error of my ways. Here are the calculations he sent us if anybody can geek out that far:

1 - 4x4 HEM-FIR #2
Based on top edge having continuous lateral support.
BENDING:
Increase in allowable for duration of load =0%
ALLOWED = 9110.9 inch/lbs
ACTUAL = 5388.6 inch/lbs
Bending ratio = 59.1% of the allowable
Bending OK
SHEAR: - No increase used
ALLOWED = 1225 pounds
ACTUAL = 466.7 pounds
Shear ratio = 38.1% of the allowable
Shear OK
DEFLECTION:
L/180 = .3333 inches
L/240 = .25 inches
L/360 = .1667 inches
L/480 = .125 inches
Total Load Deflection = .1213" - L/495
Live Load Deflection = .0866" - L/693
Deflection OK for floors and roofs
Left reaction
LL =166.7 lbs
DL =66.7 lbs
TL =233.3 lbs
Right reaction
LL =333.3 lbs
DL =133.3 lbs
TL =466.7 lbs

I thought that after putting some load on it, it was going to keep me up at night. After completing the project and taking a really hard look at what happens with people on it though I'm pretty confident it will last as long as is reasonable for a wood framed deck. Which makes me sleep easy now and it's my brother-in-laws deck and he loves it so that helps too.
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That's what you call a home owners pass, I know what he would have said to a contractor.

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Thanks! For some reason the smiley faces with beers seems appropriate. 98 degree weather made this deck way harder than any other I have ever done.

After completing my deck a couple weeks ago I went straight for a lawn chair and a cold beer. I called it the break in period. Load testing with some fat buddies is good but a deck requires a proper break in period also.



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