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JoulesWinfield 12-19-2006 03:49 PM

Adding a basement bedroom
Hello all.
Im sure you noticed this is my first post here.
After doing some surfing I thought I would join and cause lots of greif,
I mean maybe get some help and help others.

A little background- I have done many DIY projects over the years. My parents usually bought POS homes and forced us kids to "help" with the repairs. Through the years I have had some usefull jobs for short periods as well as being a machine tool electrican for 4 years.

I have been a general helper on a framing crew, a roofer and a residential electrican. Each for short periods.
Now I am a controls engineer, have been for about 8 years.

So anyway, I am adding a bedroom in my basement. As a result I am also putting in an egress window. The part that concerns me is that on one side of the area is the washer, dryer, utility tub, sump pump, and main electrical panel and the furnace is on the other side.

The side that the furnace is on will be a full wall. The other side is the part Im not sure what to do with.

Any advice you guys can give me is much appreciated.
Im already pretty familiar with the local codes regarding the egress window, but not so much with actually installing one. And the washer dryer area is another concern.


glennjanie 12-19-2006 05:48 PM

Welcome to the Fourm Joules:
Is there a better place for the washer-dryer? Upstairs,perhaps. I'm sure your wife would love to have them in or next to the bathroom; it makes it so much handier and less steps up and down. Keep us posted, maybe even some pictures.

JoulesWinfield 12-20-2006 06:59 AM

Well there is a better place for them. I just cant put them there yet.
We are planning on adding on above the garage at a later date which includes a new laundry room.
But for now I just need to add a bedroom, and I dont have the $50k that its gonna cost to do the master addition.

JoulesWinfield 12-20-2006 07:28 AM

Heres a quick layout with a coupe of dimensions.
Its just a napkin sketch at this point.

Im thinking that the washer dryer etc area I could just do like a fan fold door or a couple sets of bi fold doors.

Im just not sure if there would be any codes relating to having the sump in a bedroom or any of the other things on that side.

glennjanie 12-20-2006 09:45 AM

Hello Joules:
Thanks for the floor plan; it helps to visualize the problem you have. I'm not aquainted enough with codes to know about putting the appliances in a bed room, but I look at it this way, if they are behind a folding or bifold door then they are not in the bedroom but in a closet. I see no problem with that.
We might need to consider the sump though; it should have a solid top and , in Kentucky, it would need a seperate 2" vent through the roof. Do your washer and sink discharge into the sump?
The window appears to be in a good location.

JoulesWinfield 12-20-2006 09:51 AM

Thanks for the replies.

The sump does have one of those plastic tops that kinda locks in place. It just has a slot from the back side for the drain.
As far as a vent goes, Ill have to check with my buddy thats a master plumber, but if I need a vent couldnt I run it through the wall? Getting to the roof from the basement would suck, I guess if I had to I could do it though.

The washer drains into the utility tub (sink) that has its own pump to lift it to the house drain pipe. The sump just dumps through a pipe to the outside.

The window in that drawing is the existing window, the egress will be a little wider, but still centered in the same place.

The room has gotten a little larger, 9x12 and it may grow a little more to put a closet to the left of the washer and dryer.

glennjanie 12-20-2006 03:10 PM

When we moved here the washer drained into the laundry tub, drained to the sump and was pumped out by the sump pump. That is a redundancy of pumping so, I extended the washer drain to the house drain which the sump pump was emptying into. Now my sump pump runs only when its raining, while the washer pump was running often. Washer pumps will raise the water 10' with no problem; I was raising it 7' and didn't even use a back flow preventer.
Now the washer is on the main living level and still drains into the same pipe. A real neat little coincidence.

JoulesWinfield 12-20-2006 03:21 PM

My laundry tub pump lifts about 7' as well.
I cant say that I have ever noticed the sump running.
I know it works, but every time I have the inclination to check its totally dry.
I guess thats a good thing.

JoulesWinfield 12-22-2006 12:38 PM

Heres an updated plan.
Still need a couple of things worked out.
Heat and cold air return. Framing around Egress window.

Oh, and theres this gas pipe that sticks down about 3 inches that Im not sure what to do with.

On a side note I checked the sump again last night, there was about an inch of water in there. We have been getting a bit of rain lately. First time I have seen anything in it.

glennjanie 12-22-2006 09:18 PM

Hi Joules:
If the gas line sticking down has a plug or cap on it, you can unscrew the pipe that sticks down and move the plug to the ell that probably turns the pipe down. If its a cap, just unscrew the down pipe and the ell that turns it and put the cap on the pipe after the ell. Of course, I am basing this on the gas pipe being black steel pipe, if it is a copper line everything changes. Oh! and be sure to turn the gas off at the meter before you begin.

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