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Old 02-10-2011, 05:40 PM  
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Just checking to see if my profile picture shows up. Its a shot of the money pit we are working on.



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Old 02-10-2011, 06:12 PM  
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Olddog was kind enough to tell me how to post a picture. (Kudos to olddog ) Here is an exterior shot of my house. I will try to follow up with more useful pictures when we can get up the driveway.



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OK, it has been almost a year, so I decided I should finally upload some "after" pics that I happened to download off the camera yesterday. This shows the beam the Mr. ended up installing in the basement. It is 6 2-bys, with the joists cut back to allow the beam to go in between. The original construction was to have the joists rest on top of the beam, leaving very little headroom down the middle of the basement. Now grownups can walk across the room without ducking!

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The hubby deserves an "A" for ambition. The beam he built looks strong enough to keep things standing a while. But a few comments:

The nearest and 5th joist in the last picture are missing their hangers, at the beam. What's connecting them to the beam? And your red steel pipe jack posts (and the entire beam, for that matter) would perform somewhat better if there were (full-width) distribution plates on top of each post covering the entire width of the beam, instead of just the flimsy thin steel 4 x 4 plates the posts come with, making contact with just the middle three (and a fraction) 2 x 10s. The small top plates increase the loading applied through the interior 2x members of the beam, while the exterior 2x beam members won't carry what they're capable of. Or will possibly subject the connectors between 2xs more than they can comfortably carry, over time. I'd suggest 1/2" thick steel top plates at each post, 9" long (spanning all of the 2 x 10s) and 5" or 6" wide. Also, the spacing of the jack posts looks like it could be increased, possibly eliminating a few of them. Have you ever been able to get an engineer out to look things over (you mentioned in an earlier comment that Kansas engineers don't like to drive out into the country). Maybe you could lure one of them out with the promise of some home-made apple pie!

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Thanks BridgeMan. I forgot to say that these pictures aren't the final job. The red posts are gone, replaced with two 4" steel pipes with full-width welded plates holding up the beam. There is a pipe foundry about 4 miles from us where we obtained some reasonably priced pipe for the project. they are pretty thick, just don't remember how big. The Mr. is usually too busy to snap photos, but if I get a better pic I'll post it.

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This is "the Mr." here...
There was only a open 2x wall holding up that floor and the second floor also 2x wall above it. My engineering is generally 'Anything is better than that was". Some was still incomplete at those pics as it was freezing down there and I was untwisting floor joist and mounting them by myself...argh!
Anyways, if you have seen the beam for the second floor it is huge beam with a big span, 17 feet if I recall. It is a point load on it down to the steel post under it into the basement floor. I did no concrete work for the base. It's been my experience that a point load maxing my 20K jacks will crack 3" concrete but haven't broken 4" yet. So, there is slight concern there but nothing I can't fix if I 'have to'.
Thanks for your support and insight. D says see 'second story support' for other beam. It is fully supporting the second floor with 2 2x4's on edge! D says that they don't show alll the joists hangers in yet either but they are now. I do intend to use 2x6's beam to beam on (1 1/2") edge or doubled to support the upstairs beam but that really about it. The wall edge is supported by a 12 inch concrete wall in the basement with the 2x going directly to the beam in the basement.

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Is anybody wondering how he got that beam up there by himself?

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I would suggest 8ft between posts . If you had used a Lamnated Beam or a steal beam you could have a greater span.

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I'm guessing they went up one stick at a time...thinking about doing it solo makes my back hurt, so I'm not gonna

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Is anybody wondering how he got that beam up there by himself?
Not really. Just a matter of using one's head, and thinking like Archimedes when he said--"Give me a place to stand on, and I can move the Earth." Just about anything within reason can be done by leverage and mechanical advantage (and the electric winch shown in the picture probably didn't hurt, either).

Back when I wasn't so old and feeble, I did quite a bit of solo lifting of stout (heavy) members. Heaviest I can clearly recall was a 600-lb., built-up timber/steel monster that I used to replace a load-bearing wall. Swung it into place using two straining step ladders, some blocks and a farmer's jack. The wife couldn't believe that it had migrated from the floor up into the attic, while she was sleeping in an adjacent room a few feet away. She insisted it must weigh a half-ton (hence my computing its weight, just to prove her wrong), and asked why would I subject myself to such punishment.

Told her "because it was in the way, and I didn't want to trip over it."


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