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RedBaron 02-09-2014 06:30 PM

Framing Wall - Poor Workmanship or Acceptable Practise
 
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I have a new house being built and I think the framing on the garage wall is poorly done. When complaining I was told by the developer that nobody guarantees 16" on centre studs. Which is fine due to size of rooms and all but I have never heard or seen the mis-spaced stud in the middle of the wall. If you look at the photo you can see two studs close together on either side of them the spacing is 16". This is a brand new build I don't think this is good practise or even acceptable. Sure maybe it may never make a difference in the long run but I am just curious to know if people think this is acceptable common practise? Would a quality framer worth his weight do something like this?


CallMeVilla 02-10-2014 06:20 PM

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We have all probably done moment frames ... but I don't see the framing here which suggests a steel post for that kind of structure. To me, it looks like a wooden support for the steel beam.


RedBaron 02-10-2014 07:17 PM

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Don't have many pictures but here is one from a few days earlier. That small section between joists is just covered with a thin strip of OSB only crossing those two studs. There is a bedroom over the garage.

To be honest I just wanted to see if this is they way it is done these days. Being a DIYer I have done work in quite a few houses generally 1970's era and have never come across any wall that wasn't spaced 16" on centre for its entire length except at the ends of a wall.


CallMeVilla 02-11-2014 10:19 AM

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While we are dissecting the structure ... I did a blow up of the post and OMG !! Have you ever seen a wedge in a structural post? I mean really ? This IS a workmanship issue. Somebody gang cut the studs then made up for it elsewhere along the wall ... but NOT on the point load post.

Tell me I am wrong about this ...


RedBaron 02-11-2014 05:02 PM

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First off thanks for all the information helps when dealing with the builder

Another question how high above the door should a header be or better question how high is it allowed to be over the door? Picture is a little dark just took it tonight when I was out.


CallMeVilla 02-13-2014 09:26 PM

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The framing is specified by the prints. The call out for the door should be obvious based on the rough-in measurements. I put the header where it needs to be directly above the door and fill-in the difference up to the top plate with cripples as necessary (see pic).

Your builder tossed a header into the framing high enough to clear the door ... but now he has to back-fill the gap. Can he do it? Sure. Is it how you're supposed to do it? Nope.


RedBaron 02-22-2014 11:02 AM

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Here is another thing I have a problem with . I can't see this being acceptable. But would like to know what others think

This is the same house. The window was put in the wrong place and I told them they had to move it. after which time they added the plumbing but still hadn't moved the windows. Once I complained again and provided proof they moved the window, but now the plumbing was in the way so it was cut out and the window was moved and the picture shows what I ended up with

this is a 2x6 outside wall looking at the right side king stud
(they did scab a 2x4 to the right side which you can kind of see, I would guess to increase strength



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