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papakevin 11-06-2011 06:09 PM

My next foundation project: Iron posts supporting cabin?
 
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Not that I have the time to start another project, but the wife found a little cabin (house) on some land for a fantastic price, so we had to buy it.

The property is on a small river, has a working well plus city water, upgraded power (200amp service w/the cabin) and a four year old septic system. In our mind, the land and everything it has on it minus the cabin was well worth the purchase price, and we are considering the cabin as a bonus.

The cabin is small (650 sq feet), was built in 1977, but has had the interior upgraded and the exterior covered with vinyl siding and metal skirting . So I was surprised when I removed the skirting access panel to see that the cabin itself is supported by small steel pillars. I don't know how to describe it exactly, so I'm attaching some photos.

As I mentioned, the cabin is located next to a small river, but by all reports the water has never risen up to the cabin (got within 150 feet, but not any closer). We take possession of it this Thursday, so I will be making a trip out there this Saturday to investigate further.

Any thoughts on this construction? Is it something I should be concerned about? My initial thought is that I need to reinforce the structure, by putting some concrete blocks in the corners and on either side of the middle support posts, then driving steel plates between the top of the blocks and the bottom of the foundation to add some support.

This type of steel post structure appears a little suspect right now only because I've never seen anything like this before. I appreciate any feedback / comments others may have.


papakevin 11-06-2011 06:09 PM

My next foundation project: Iron posts supporting cabin?
 
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Not that I have the time to start another project, but the wife found a little cabin (house) on some land for a fantastic price, so we had to buy it.

The property is on a small river, has a working well plus city water, upgraded power (200amp service w/the cabin) and a four year old septic system. In our mind, the land and everything it has on it minus the cabin was well worth the purchase price, and we are considering the cabin as a bonus.

The cabin is small (650 sq feet), was built in 1977, but has had the interior upgraded and the exterior covered with vinyl siding and metal skirting . So I was surprised when I removed the skirting access panel to see that the cabin itself is supported by small steel pillars. I don't know how to describe it exactly, so I'm attaching some photos.

As I mentioned, the cabin is located next to a small river, but by all reports the water has never risen up to the cabin (got within 150 feet, but not any closer). We take possession of it this Thursday, so I will be making a trip out there this Saturday to investigate further.

Any thoughts on this construction? Is it something I should be concerned about? My initial thought is that I need to reinforce the structure, by putting some concrete blocks in the corners and on either side of the middle support posts, then driving steel plates between the top of the blocks and the bottom of the foundation to add some support.

This type of steel post structure appears a little suspect right now only because I've never seen anything like this before. I appreciate any feedback / comments others may have.


papakevin 11-06-2011 06:09 PM

My next foundation project: Iron posts supporting cabin?
 
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Not that I have the time to start another project, but the wife found a little cabin (house) on some land for a fantastic price, so we had to buy it.

The property is on a small river, has a working well plus city water, upgraded power (200amp service w/the cabin) and a four year old septic system. In our mind, the land and everything it has on it minus the cabin was well worth the purchase price, and we are considering the cabin as a bonus.

The cabin is small (650 sq feet), was built in 1977, but has had the interior upgraded and the exterior covered with vinyl siding and metal skirting . So I was surprised when I removed the skirting access panel to see that the cabin itself is supported by small steel pillars. I don't know how to describe it exactly, so I'm attaching some photos.

As I mentioned, the cabin is located next to a small river, but by all reports the water has never risen up to the cabin (got within 150 feet, but not any closer). We take possession of it this Thursday, so I will be making a trip out there this Saturday to investigate further.

Any thoughts on this construction? Is it something I should be concerned about? My initial thought is that I need to reinforce the structure, by putting some concrete blocks in the corners and on either side of the middle support posts, then driving steel plates between the top of the blocks and the bottom of the foundation to add some support.

This type of steel post structure appears a little suspect right now only because I've never seen anything like this before. I appreciate any feedback / comments others may have.


papakevin 11-06-2011 06:09 PM

My next foundation project: Iron posts supporting cabin?
 
4 Attachment(s)

Not that I have the time to start another project, but the wife found a little cabin (house) on some land for a fantastic price, so we had to buy it.

The property is on a small river, has a working well plus city water, upgraded power (200amp service w/the cabin) and a four year old septic system. In our mind, the land and everything it has on it minus the cabin was well worth the purchase price, and we are considering the cabin as a bonus.

The cabin is small (650 sq feet), was built in 1977, but has had the interior upgraded and the exterior covered with vinyl siding and metal skirting . So I was surprised when I removed the skirting access panel to see that the cabin itself is supported by small steel pillars. I don't know how to describe it exactly, so I'm attaching some photos.

As I mentioned, the cabin is located next to a small river, but by all reports the water has never risen up to the cabin (got within 150 feet, but not any closer). We take possession of it this Thursday, so I will be making a trip out there this Saturday to investigate further.

Any thoughts on this construction? Is it something I should be concerned about? My initial thought is that I need to reinforce the structure, by putting some concrete blocks in the corners and on either side of the middle support posts, then driving steel plates between the top of the blocks and the bottom of the foundation to add some support.

This type of steel post structure appears a little suspect right now only because I've never seen anything like this before. I appreciate any feedback / comments others may have.


papakevin 11-06-2011 08:19 PM

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Thanks, Joe. I will have my wife call around tomorrow and will take the sawzall and some of the vents with me next weekend. I will also take some more photos underneath the cabin for additional help.

As I said, the interior is very sweet considering it is just an old cabin and want to do everything I can to save it. (A couple interior photos attached.)


papakevin 11-06-2011 08:19 PM

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Thanks, Joe. I will have my wife call around tomorrow and will take the sawzall and some of the vents with me next weekend. I will also take some more photos underneath the cabin for additional help.

As I said, the interior is very sweet considering it is just an old cabin and want to do everything I can to save it. (A couple interior photos attached.)


papakevin 11-07-2011 05:32 AM

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Thanks Joe, probably a better option.

BridgeMan, just checked the photos. Yes, duct work is in the ceiling. Photos of furnace and central air attached.


papakevin 11-07-2011 05:32 AM

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Thanks Joe, probably a better option.

BridgeMan, just checked the photos. Yes, duct work is in the ceiling. Photos of furnace and central air attached.


papakevin 11-14-2011 05:42 AM

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Spent a little time at the property this past Saturday and got my son to take the attached photos under the property. From what I can see and have learned from talking to the previous owner, the house is sitting on the iron posts, in concrete sunk into the ground (although no one knows how deep). Guessing this was constructed this way due to the proximity of the river. There are 4 posts length wise and 3 posts deep. It was constructed as a cabin, so the quality is not up to home building specs, but the interior has been modified to be as nice as any home.

The cabin has been on this foundation for 30+ years, but I'm concerned with the way it is build. My initial idea was to use concrete blocks and build up the blocks with a header board on either side of the exterior posts to add some stability to the structure in the event one of the posts would fail. Assuming I would need to dig down and pour a concrete base for the blocks, but wouldn't want to do so too close to the posts, fearing it may weaken them.

Open to all ideas and suggestions. Not looking to spend a ton of money here, but do want to steady the cabin so it will last another 20+ years. Thanks.


papakevin 11-14-2011 05:42 AM

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Spent a little time at the property this past Saturday and got my son to take the attached photos under the property. From what I can see and have learned from talking to the previous owner, the house is sitting on the iron posts, in concrete sunk into the ground (although no one knows how deep). Guessing this was constructed this way due to the proximity of the river. There are 4 posts length wise and 3 posts deep. It was constructed as a cabin, so the quality is not up to home building specs, but the interior has been modified to be as nice as any home.

The cabin has been on this foundation for 30+ years, but I'm concerned with the way it is build. My initial idea was to use concrete blocks and build up the blocks with a header board on either side of the exterior posts to add some stability to the structure in the event one of the posts would fail. Assuming I would need to dig down and pour a concrete base for the blocks, but wouldn't want to do so too close to the posts, fearing it may weaken them.

Open to all ideas and suggestions. Not looking to spend a ton of money here, but do want to steady the cabin so it will last another 20+ years. Thanks.



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