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Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

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Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

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Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

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Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

6 Attachment(s)

Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

6 Attachment(s)

Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Chris 06-03-2014 01:37 PM

6 Attachment(s)

Gravel will not sink to below the plastic pipes. I install perf pipe underground in large commercial retention/detention systems all the time and it will lock together and not move. Gravel is the only thing you can backfill with that does not need to be compacted according to the municipalities and engineers I work for. Here are a couple pics of some of the larger type systems I have built and many are just perf pipe sitting in the middle of rock that is many feet deep. The only thing I would look for in rock is to get washed rock, it will be much cleaner and keep all that silt out of the system.


Jungle 06-17-2014 05:33 AM

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I'm not on a septic. There used to be a septic which i guess is still in the yard. I assume weeping tile drain can't run to the sewer drain. Or should i do it anyways, could it back up?

The public ditch by the road is not gonna be deep enough. Maybe 1-2" feet i will have to dig down for the slope to work. Then a hole? But there is huge ice and snow there in the spring! Now i read what you said about flowing back, maybe the ditch is out of the question. Big gravel 10' hole? Unless i snake the pipe to the right in front of the neighbors property bury in the ditch, there is good slope. That would work.

One discharge point. I got, plumbing is all about air. I could have two discharge points but separate the plumbing.


So how do i make the discharge point? A deep gravel hole? The house is raised , the yard and the side and front are all sloped, only the driveway is more flat. Actually one problem is the old garage that was there and i will get the mini-ex guy to level this area because it was causing perhaps most of the problem with a big mound of sand that is still there.

What if i use 10 ' solid pipe then 50' perforated then a large hole in the yard filled with gravel? Or what if the pipe then snorkeled up with screen on top? The water would just drain in the yard starting 10' away, which should be enough. Or add another branch drain pipe, like a septic system?


Jungle 06-17-2014 05:33 AM

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I'm not on a septic. There used to be a septic which i guess is still in the yard. I assume weeping tile drain can't run to the sewer drain. Or should i do it anyways, could it back up?

The public ditch by the road is not gonna be deep enough. Maybe 1-2" feet i will have to dig down for the slope to work. Then a hole? But there is huge ice and snow there in the spring! Now i read what you said about flowing back, maybe the ditch is out of the question. Big gravel 10' hole? Unless i snake the pipe to the right in front of the neighbors property bury in the ditch, there is good slope. That would work.

One discharge point. I got, plumbing is all about air. I could have two discharge points but separate the plumbing.


So how do i make the discharge point? A deep gravel hole? The house is raised , the yard and the side and front are all sloped, only the driveway is more flat. Actually one problem is the old garage that was there and i will get the mini-ex guy to level this area because it was causing perhaps most of the problem with a big mound of sand that is still there.

What if i use 10 ' solid pipe then 50' perforated then a large hole in the yard filled with gravel? Or what if the pipe then snorkeled up with screen on top? The water would just drain in the yard starting 10' away, which should be enough. Or add another branch drain pipe, like a septic system?


Jungle 07-04-2014 10:11 AM

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Well i washed the footers today. There are weird chunks of concrete and gaps in a few places.

I'm think it is better to put it on the footer, the old tiles are still bellow the foot, not easy to get out. I get the feeling the water will go towards that corner of the footer.


Also since there is still not much water coming in, even with lots of washing right in holes etc. It is amazing how much dirt is in some holes, also the algae sludge on the one wall was no doubt the problem with the smell.
It maybe he did not pump the septic or add enzymes when they switched over and so it oozed around the foundation wall. Perhaps just bacteria build up and poor drainage.

So what should i do about these chunks, maybe the pic is not that good but it is about 4-6" high a few of them. 1) try and remove them, doubtful 2) put the pipe beside them 3) build corner pipe that goes around the chunks but keep close to the footer corner. 4) Put the pipe bellow the footer, beside the old tiles, means some more hand digging.


Jungle 07-06-2014 07:40 AM

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I've put 2 pails of blue skin on. I mostly paint to the grade.

Do you think i should get another $140 pail?

Consider i will glue foam eps sheets on there and cover with 10mm poly, probably not necessary and i am tired of painting chemicals right now. I'm thinking it is enough.



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