amodoko

you're absolutely right. When replacing frost proof sillcocks you do have to do a lot of crap on the inside of the house since they go into the house. For me, this time 2 out of 3 of them were in horribly cramped locations and I had to be careful soldering (didn't want to use a shark bite since I don't trust them for long periods of time) or I had to do a bunch of prep work to make sure soldering would go smoothly in such a tight location.

Your friends' that froze, was that a frost proof sillcock as well? Or was it just a regular sillcock/hose bib? If it was a frost proof one, I'm assuming it was due to a bad drain angle or a hose was attached, correct?

And all 3 of the sillcocks I replaced do have shut offs, they just were never used since my parents trusted the frost proof sillcocks from not freezing. I ended up replacing one of the shut offs with a quarter turn ball valve, and the other two I left since they were working (although I should have probably replaced them too since they were so old... probably going to have to replace them in a few years now, lol).

nealtw

Ya he keeps leaving the hose hooked up, but now if it freezes it leaks outside and he knows it. With the frost proof ones, you don't know it until you used it.