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Old 02-12-2014, 10:51 AM  
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... I hope to pass on before it corrodes the copper enough to need rework...



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10/1/11: Bought the perfect house;11/1/12: 10k & 200 hours into the perfect house; Floors are done and cutting up the cement for the new bathroom that wasn't actually plumbed like the seller said it was; 8/1/13: 30k & 400 hours into the perfect house that only needed new carpet and a coat of paint...
12/1/13: 35k & 500 hours I hope it ends soon
02/1/14: 37k & 550 hours and the inside may be finished soon.

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The hours now ramp up linearly at 25 hrs/mon but the $ are beginning to look like an S curve which may level off at 40K or 45K total. The steepest $/mon rate was at about 18 months.

Both should eventually level off at some normal rate of $/mon and hrs/mon for normal home improvement.

If you're happy with how things are turning out then the shape of these curves may provide what's 'normal' for people doing remodeling over months or years.

|date |mon |$ |hrs
10/1/11 0 $0 0
11/1/12 13 $10 200
8/1/13 22 $30 400
12/1/13 26 $35 500
2/1/14 28 $37 550



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The hours now ramp up linearly at 25 hrs/mon but the $ are beginning to look like an S curve which may level off at 40K or 45K total. The steepest $/mon rate was at about 18 months.

Both should eventually level off at some normal rate of $/mon and hrs/mon for normal home improvement.

If you're happy with how things are turning out then the shape of these curves may provide what's 'normal' for people doing remodeling over months or years.

|date |mon |$ |hrs
10/1/11 0 $0 0
11/1/12 13 $10 200
8/1/13 22 $30 400
12/1/13 26 $35 500
2/1/14 28 $37 550
Your curve is one sided.
You also have to figure in how much money and time you have saved by not being intertained at some silly football or hockey game and how much those tickets and snacks cost.
Then don't forget the value of the mistakes you can laugh about later.
Then there is the increased value of the house.
Anything you learn will cost you time and money but they are yours for life, what value is that.
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Neal,
For me it's the peace of mind knowing it's done right or knowing what I did wrong versus the unknown of what the last idiot did that's really valuable. The increased value of the home is pretty easy to quantify as there's now 5 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms instead of 3 & 1. I agree with the learning thing too though and even though I paid for college I don't often consider that in the value of doing things .

I thought about adding a 3rd stall onto my garage because I miss my old 4 car garage sooo badly. Really simple implementation just adding 12 or so feet of slab and then continuing the roof pitch out the rest of the way but I found out the concrete quotes were $12-15k for the slab and some new driveway so I've passed on that one as I'll probably never recoup even half of that when the house sells.

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12/1/13: 35k & 500 hours I hope it ends soon
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$12-15k sounds like a lot when you say slab. That should include digging, footings, foundation , backfill then slab. Then it sounds not bad. But a home owner can usually do really well having this done by hiring the jobs out sepparately. The guy that gives you a price on the whole job either hires out parts of the job or has equipment sitting alot of the time that needs to be paid for. And then there are places in the mix when the homeowner can get in there and do some work. Evan if it's just leveling and compaction the fill.
You do want to be carefull about overbuilding for the hood. Most of us don't need trucks, campers, boats, cruises and seasons tickets but that never stops us.

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Neal, I had 3 quotes done and the price for cement was $62/... in AZ it was $48/ 2yrs back so I think that's where alot of the cost is at. There's alot of soil that would need to be brought in since my house is "raised" out of the flood plane so it's basically a little island. Then more soil and work for where the driveway will reach the new section of garage. After looking over the numbers and getting depressed I realized 12-13k was pretty reasonable for what needed to be done.

As far as the Hood I'm in one of the nicest neighborhoods in town and I'm the smallest dumpiest house on the block but for some reason in ND they don't value 3+ car garages... in AZ if you didn't have a 3 car garage you were living the slum. That's why the agent said I'd never see half my money back on that. However they have large families so by having 5 BR 2 bath instead of 3/1 I should make more than I've put into the house, which is cool.

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Ya, we have flood plain areas here too but the garage can be lower as it is not living space as long is the foundation comes up to full hight the deck can be lower. often we see the extra garage on the side with a ten ft door for the camper and the roof is continues.

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OHHHHH that sounds FANTASTIC! Most people in this block have just built a 2nd 2-story garage with lifts for engines and such. I'd never though about that for attaching the 3rd stall... That sure is tempting but when is enough enough, at some point I DO want to be done especially since I've never lived in any town longer than 5 years.

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