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Old 05-05-2014, 06:09 PM  
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Default Meter Yoke Leaking on its valve

Recently, I bought a distressed property which then was vandalized (having much of its plumbing and electrical wiring stolen and/or damaged). As of now part of the plumbing is working (other parts ball valves were installed), and everything new is going to be pex with some copper.

But I am having some issues with the yoke (support whereon the water meter is installed), according to the utility company it is a 5/8 inches yoke. Previously the house was vacant and the water was turned off. Once I requested to have water turned on again, the utility worker came over turn the water on at the street and then installed the meter on the yoke (the utility worker then indicated that everything was ok and there was no leakage). I returned to the house and found a small but steady stream leaking from the yoke valve. I was told by the utility comp that I would have to buy a new yoke, but I was wondering if just replacing the valve washers would not work (it is a typical sympton of bad washer: if I turn the valve on to a certain point it starts to leak much more, closing the valve to a certain extent will then dramatically reduce the leakage). Below is a pic of the yoke+meter (under the water damaged kitchen sink):


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I never dealt with yokes before, and having to call the utility simply to have the water turned on and off at the street is huge hassle. Any insight would be appreciated.



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You should be able to rebuild it but the question is ,is it worth it. It might be worth buying your own wrench for turning off the main if you can't rent one.



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You should be able to rebuild it but the question is ,is it worth it. It might be worth buying your own wrench for turning off the main if you can't rent oone.
Thanks for your response. Is the valve an integral part of the yoke and thus can not be replace on its own? But I would imagine that valve should to be a conventional one with a replaceable washer. There is only one place to buy this yoke, and it is a place owned by the water company. If it is necessary I definitely could buy one. By what you mentioned it is not worth repairing it, so maybe a new one is in order.

So, I can buy a long specialty wrench to open and close the shutoff valve at the street at a home supply store (lowes, homedepot, etc) and use it myself (so I do not depend on water comp. everytime I need to run a test or something)?
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-28-in-Steel-Curb-Key-53246/100113731?keyword=watermain+wrench
I think you have to order it on line and pick it up at your store.
Don't know if you can buy a new yoke but if you can take the valve apart you should be able to replace the washer and the packing. It is the packing that is leaking.
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-28-in-Steel-Curb-Key-53246/100113731?keyword=watermain+wrench
I think you have to order it on line and pick it up at your store.
Don't know if you can buy a new yoke but if you can take the valve apart you should be able to replace the washer and the packing. It is the packing that is leaking.
Thanks for the link. I ended up buying it a local Lowes which interestingly would online (lowes.com) be in stock and available to pick it up at the same day in the same store, but would not be available for purchase at the very same store otherwise (walking in).

I am traveling and far away from the property, but once I arrive there tomorrow I am going to try to use the tool for the first time (I remember that the guy from the utility company had lots of difficult opening the valve with his tool). It also happened that even when the water was off at the street level a small amount of water would still leak from the yoke, which then makes me believe that the water was never 100% off (maybe the utility worker who initially closed the valve a year ago did not do a good job, or the valve at the street level is not working property [hopefully that is not the case])

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That might be do to the store following rules of the city.
This link has information on turning off the water.

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According to the water supply company the new Yoke that I bought directly from them should be a perfect fit for the assembly I have now, but that does not seem to the case. Firstly, they indicated that the valve of the new yoke should be upside down, while the the valve of the older one seems to be an older global valve. Secondly, it seems that there will be a need of some elbow in order to connect the new yoke to the water supply line. Since it is the main water supply I have to make sure everything is a perfect fit and works well together... Below is a photo depicting the two yokes:



It seems that it uses mostly flared fittings, and even if I can the water off at the street there will water sitting on the pipes making it difficult to solder the copper (heater seems to suck the water out).
Any input would be appreciated!

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I have asked Speedbump to come over and help out.

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Neal,

I'm sorry but this is out of my league. I am familiar with water wells and pumping equipment. City water is not in my field of expertise. Actually the city water folks are my competitors. And they seem to be winning.

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Thanks anyway Speedbump; Ours are out at the street and I can't say that I have ever really had a close look at one.
TK3000; It looks to me like you will have to change the one fitting for an elbow. You will have to drain the house, or you will be dealing with alot of water when yoiu remove this thing.
I think it should be all unions , no solding.



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