Originally Posted by Obama the Plumber
I don't run into too many plumbers still willing to install the Champion after all the problems they had with them.
The home centers sell them, but it would be rare to find one at a plumbing supply house.
But then homeowners dont' have much long term information to go by either.
Things I buy at home centers are tools, electical cords and lights.
The faucets at the home centers are kind of light weight too.
Plastic drains for lav faucets?
What is that about?
Fancy meeting you here!
I agree these Am. Std. Champion's are junk!
I was done with them back when they were still Champion 1's...
Of course now that they are on their 4th redesign I have to admit they are getting closer to being the product that should have been released the first time...
I'll stick with selling Toto's like you...
Funny thing when buying a toilet from a Japanese multinational corporation gives you a better chance at buying a toilet manufactured in the US than buying one from a US based multinational corporation that has been aquired by Bain Capitol and in a profit enhancing move they have shifted production south of the border to Mexico, Guatamala, Honduras, Brazil and where ever else they can find cheap labor...
Toto on the other hand built a plant in Georgia making many toilets there.