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gottodo1 09-13-2013 07:43 PM

Show trickle, valve/body issue
 
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Okay, I have delta faucet in a rental house, it was working FINE when I left. A few months later (a few ago) my renters said the water pressure had went down, now it's to the point it will only dribble out. I told him to replace the valve. He went to Lowes and purchased a new one, it didn't work at all. I told him to turn it around and then it started dribbling. When he has the valve removed and turns on water to the house, only cold water flows out the right side, there is no hot water coming out the left side. I had him open and close the shutoff screws. I had him pull out the "stop" following this and he did and reinserted it. http://www.moen.com/shared/docs/instruction-sheets/mt620j.pdf I do not believe we have balancer in this unit as I believe that is contained in the valve and not the body....

Is that normal for no hot water to flow? There is a shower unit behind this so ... < 5ft a way that shower has hot water... I'm really puzzled at this point. The house has a fantastic softner/arsenic remover, so I'm just confused what else could be going on here?

I have attached pictures of the valve body and the valve. He says it's a delta monitor unit. It is a bath only unit with no shower. I think this is the right picture for this faucet. http://www.deltafaucet.com/customersupport/documentation/1323.html?document=pd&fromDetailArea=bath&document Index=0#flashWrapper


When I did my new delta install I had a similar issue but it was only because I didn't have it seated 100% it was REALLY hard to get it all the way in. I could really use some ideas on other things to check.

gottodo1 09-13-2013 07:57 PM

As you can see we have one of those solid back splashes so I'm really worried there's something else wrong with the valve body and we'd have to replace it. Can you replace one without damaging the back splash? A plumber wants $100 just to come look at it so I'd like to know what's wrong so that if he comes out he also fixes it in one visit :), or better yet fix it without a plumber but I think I'm getting past that point on this one since I'm just being phone support to someone more novice than myself.

nealtw 09-13-2013 10:47 PM

It sounds like you have a blockage in the pipe, and I have herd of people back flushing the pipe to the water heater or to another faucet, but I have not seen it done.

CallMeVilla 09-14-2013 12:41 AM

I replaced several like this ... If the replacement is not seated properly, you will get little water or little hot. I also remove the limiter so the water can be hotter.

Honestly, your best bet is to get DELTA customer service on the phone and have them walk you through the reinstallation. They are surprisingly helpful.

ANd, don't ask me about the guy who had sons who liked to turn off the shower with their feet ... cost him a lot of $$$. :D

gottodo1 09-14-2013 04:01 PM

Neal,
That's what I'm ultimately afraid of so I asked him to run some pipe cleaners through the hot side but I know the branch is only 5 feet away so I can't imagine it could be THAT bad of a blockage.

Villa,
I've had that same thing happen but I'm not there so I can't "try" to fix it (he lives 26 hours away)... summarize to say awful past decisions led me to this. Anyway, I'm going to have him re-seat it and then call delta customer support, do they still do the lifetime warranty thing?

-Joe

nealtw 09-15-2013 11:29 AM

Sometimes a plumber can save you money in the long run:rolleyes:

gottodo1 09-15-2013 12:14 PM

.... Neal, I would actually say exactly the opposite, they 'rip off artists' AKA Plumbers, save you money in the short run. If you learn how to do it yourself it may cost more the first few projects or the first house (because it takes 2 or 3 times to get it right or it causes issues later on) but in the long run DIY SHOULD save you money. If it doesn't save you money, you're doing it wrong :D.

nealtw 09-15-2013 12:32 PM

Agree with most of that but in this case, you are the DIYer and you are trying to educate the person who should be injoying a rental house. This is all great if it works but it also could run into real problems and you are still on the hook for all repairs. I'm still on your team, just not sure it is the best plan.

gottodo1 09-16-2013 10:34 AM

There's some very..."special" circumstances around this rental where this is necessary, I'm basically unwilling to put another penny into it with the current renter. I would NEVER do this with any of my other rental units. I appreciate your response though Neal, I'm not really on the hook for the repairs because while I'm trying to do this with a happy heart if that renter complains much more I'll just evict them and sell the house for a profit.

It's a 4 bed 3 bath house and this is the master garden tub, that has a separate fully functional shower in the same room not to mention the 2 other bathrooms both with tubs & showers.. Ya, my pity tank is running on empty. I had actually written this rant before but deleted it :D.

Caduceus 09-22-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gottodo1 (Post 91552)
.... Neal, I would actually say exactly the opposite, they 'rip off artists' AKA Plumbers, save you money in the short run. If you learn how to do it yourself it may cost more the first few projects or the first house (because it takes 2 or 3 times to get it right or it causes issues later on) but in the long run DIY SHOULD save you money. If it doesn't save you money, you're doing it wrong :D.

Wow!! I just read through this thread to catch up and possibly give some "free" advice, on my own "free" time, without charge to anybody...doing it simply out of my passion for the trade and willingness to help others.
But...as a registered master plumber who has experienced slum-lords who are too cheap to provide proper service to tenants and would rather have them crap in buckets or take cold showers for weeks, I can honestly say that you can eat my a$$.
Well done on insulting a plumber on a DIY help forum.:clap:


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