DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum > DIY Home Improvement > Plumbing Forum > Soldering question




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-06-2012, 01:55 PM  
JeremyB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 133
Likes Given: 12

Default Soldering question

Hey Guys

I have another question for you guys. I have been looking at different plumbing problems lately and wondering how I would go about fixing them ( actually been practicing soldering on some scrap pieces of copper pipe and Im not bad at it, how they hold up if water was in them is another story but hey at least Im giving it the old college try,lol )

Anyways I was looking at a water line that is close to a floor joint and got to thinking how the hell do I get a torch there without burning the wood if I had to replace it somwhow? is there something you can put there to "shield" it from the heat of the torch?

Thanks for the help guys

Jeremy



__________________
JeremyB is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 04:06 PM  
nealtw
Contractor
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: vancouver, b.c.
Posts: 9,919
Liked 814 Times on 727 Posts
Likes Given: 1407

Default

D.O. Smith 34196 18" x 20" Flame shield blanket at PlumberSurplus.com


__________________
nealtw is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 04:07 PM  
kok328
Supporting Member
HRT_SUPPORTER.png
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Grand Blanc, MI
Posts: 2,185
Liked 105 Times on 92 Posts
Likes Given: 61

Default

One technique is to place a piece of sheet metal between the pipe and the wood or you can purchase a flame/heat resistant cloth made for just this situation and do likewise.

__________________
kok328 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 04:43 PM  
JeremyB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 133
Likes Given: 12

Default

Ah perfect guys, I was thinking something like this was available .

__________________
JeremyB is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 06:09 PM  
Redwood
Certified Lunatic
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Olde Tyme, Connecticut
Posts: 887
Default

Hi Jeremy,

Great Topic! Certainly torch safety is a big problem when it comes to sweating copper pipes, especially inside the walls. There is not much worse than having the fire department show up at your job site....

I don't use the sheet metal between the pipe and the wood technique for the simple reason that sheet metal conducts the heat. If that sheet metal is red hot on one side you can rest assured that the side against the wood is red hot as well.

The flame protective mat is a much better solution as the conduction of heat to the other side is very slow and a lot less likely to reach a dangerous temperature even if you sweat pipe very slowly.

There are a number of other things you should have on hand as well for a good read check out the following link. Plumbing Torch Fire Safety

If you still aren't comfortable with the proximity of combustibles to the joint and you can't sweat it and put it into place, then sweat in a better location after, you can always use a SharkBite Push-In Fitting instead.

__________________

Last edited by Redwood; 01-06-2012 at 06:13 PM.
Redwood is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 06:22 PM  
JeremyB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 133
Likes Given: 12

Default

Thanks for the link Redwood, some very useful information in it. When ever Im using my torch ( Usually on my hockey sticks ) I have bucket of water beside me and the fire extinguisher because you never know what could happen.

__________________
JeremyB is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 07:38 PM  
isola96
Senior Member
 
isola96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lagrangeville, New York
Posts: 437
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Spray bottle of water for those tight situations "memories" lol I have learned to start using shark bites if I know it's to close to be risky.

__________________
isola96 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2012, 07:47 PM  
JeremyB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 133
Likes Given: 12

Default

just googling those sharkbite products they look cool, I have never heard of them.Still really trying to figure out how they work. I watched the video they had on youtube. So If I have 2 join pieces of copper in a area that I dont want a torch around I can use on of there fittings? Are Can you get them at hardware stores?

__________________
JeremyB is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-07-2012, 07:51 AM  
isola96
Senior Member
 
isola96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lagrangeville, New York
Posts: 437
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyB
just googling those sharkbite products they look cool, I have never heard of them.Still really trying to figure out how they work. I watched the video they had on youtube. So If I have 2 join pieces of copper in a area that I dont want a torch around I can use on of there fittings? Are Can you get them at hardware stores?
Home depot has them make shore u get the ring key to get them back off with if needs be.
__________________
isola96 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-07-2012, 02:04 PM  
paul52446m
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Houghton Lake, Mi.
Posts: 435
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyB View Post
Hey Guys

I have another question for you guys. I have been looking at different plumbing problems lately and wondering how I would go about fixing them ( actually been practicing soldering on some scrap pieces of copper pipe and Im not bad at it, how they hold up if water was in them is another story but hey at least Im giving it the old college try,lol )

Anyways I was looking at a water line that is close to a floor joint and got to thinking how the hell do I get a torch there without burning the wood if I had to replace it somwhow? is there something you can put there to "shield" it from the heat of the torch?

Thanks for the help guys

Jeremy
Years back i bought a electric heating machine that you could put carbon ends on it, and i could use it to solder with. I was doing a lot of putting hot water heat in finished homes. It is a pain to solder in a corner with carpeting,
finish wood or painted walls. The machine worked good but it was very slow.
Don't remember what the called it, a trendel or something like that.
If i clamped it onto a 3/4" copper ell it would take 5 min. to solder that joint.
When they said they were going to do away with asbestos, i bought a lot of rolls until i could see what they would replace it with. I still have a lot of rope and bagged asbestos in my ware house. Paul


__________________
paul52446m is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter DIY Home Repair Forum Replies Last Post
Basic Soldering of copper pipe Nestor_Kelebay Plumbing Forum 37 03-02-2013 01:50 PM
Copper Tube Soldering Problems 1victorianfarmhouse Plumbing Forum 11 07-08-2011 09:04 PM
shower plumbing / soldering problems Christian Plumbing Forum 5 05-02-2008 06:25 PM
Risk of Explosion When Soldering Drain Pipe? travelover Plumbing Forum 3 10-22-2007 04:39 PM