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Old 03-01-2014, 03:49 PM  
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Default Toilet Flapper Closes Too Early

My toilet doesn't flush solid waste properly. I've already cleared out the outlet holes under the rim of the toilet with a coat-hanger wire, but still the flush would back up if I used too much toilet tissue (just urine, and it's ok).

Then I read a post where they said the flapper should stay up until almost
all the water is gone. Sure enough, my flapper clamps down too early, unless I hold the flush lever down longer.

It's a Flush-Master:






Also, the water reaches to within 1 and 3/8ths of an inch of the edge of the
over-flow tube. Perhaps this is too much? How do I adjust this?



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Adjust a little more slack in the chain that goes to the flapper and see what happens.



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Adjust a little more slack in the chain that goes to the flapper and see what happens.

Mine doesn't have a chain. It's just a metal rod screwed into the
handle.

But there are holes at the end of the rod, so it's possible I could
ADD a chain.....
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Try adjusting it so that it will stay open longer, may take some trial and error...

or swap it out to this type and be done with it for less than $20.00

http://www.zorotools.com/g/00070371/k-G2929972?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc &utm_campaign=Google_Shopping_Feed&kw={keyword}&gc lid=CNuz5b7A8rwCFZTm7AodZhQAmg

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Not really a whole lot of adjustment possible on this type of setup.
The float adjust with the metal clip on the metal wire attached the fill valve.
If it were me, I'd rip it all out and replace everything with a ordinary Fluidmaster kit.

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Not really a whole lot of adjustment possible on this type of setup.
The float adjust with the metal clip on the metal wire attached the fill valve.
If it were me, I'd rip it all out and replace everything with a ordinary Fluidmaster kit.

Oh, I'm sorry. It's a Fluidmaster 400 series.

But I assume you mean I should replace it with a NEW unit, right?

Also the flapper is a Mansfield Model 211.

Perhaps I could just replace the Mansfield? Or do they usually just sell the whole kit, to replace everything? Can I get a new kit at Home Depot?
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Yes, you can get everything you need at any of the hardware stores.

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Yes, you can get everything you need at any of the hardware stores.
Ok, but should I just replace the Mansfield flapper unit?

The floater/valve device seems to be working just fine.....
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Ok, but should I just replace the Mansfield flapper unit?

The floater/valve device seems to be working just fine.....
Up to you, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But my experience is, when one starts to fail, the other pieces are not far behind.
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If you change the FluidMaster fill valve with another take a look at your old one and see if it has the quick change snap ring at the bottom. If it does you don’t have to take the fill line and seal etc off the tank. Just reach inside and slide the ring and pull the unit out. It is literally a 10 second job if you have that set up. If you don’t have it the new one will and keep it in mind for next time.

As to your flapper I’m not familiar with your setup but some are designed that way to be a water saver. When flushing just liquid using less water and solids you have to hold the handle longer. Maybe that’s how yours works. I have one that gives a better flush if I hold the handle. With the new laws they keep changing things to safe water.



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