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toofast 02-28-2011 07:41 PM

Could rain be coming in through a vent ?
 
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Not sure if this will make sense, but I will attach a few pics to help...

Last night we had what they call a 100 year rain storm. Basically it rained inches and inches super fast.

The house is a few years old and I never ever had a leak. This morning my sons ceiling was quite wet...basically a spot 1 ft in diameter was soaked. Going outside, I noticed a "vent" stack in the ceiling above his room. The top is wide open (meaning no rain shield), However I was told this is normal.

As you can see, there appears to be no moisture around the opening on the top if the roof, but it does look like the insulation might be a bit damp. I could not get up close as I did not want to walk across he attic...so these are from my zoom lens.

Is it possible it rained so hard, excess water got into the vent and they at the lower elbow it leaked out? That would mean the pvc was not perfectly sealed?

Or could the rain come in without actually touching the roof material? Outside the flashing (i think this is what it is called) looks perfect and no shingles are missing.

Any other ideas ?

Hope my question makes sense...


toofast 02-28-2011 07:41 PM

Could rain be coming in through a vent ?
 
4 Attachment(s)

Not sure if this will make sense, but I will attach a few pics to help...

Last night we had what they call a 100 year rain storm. Basically it rained inches and inches super fast.

The house is a few years old and I never ever had a leak. This morning my sons ceiling was quite wet...basically a spot 1 ft in diameter was soaked. Going outside, I noticed a "vent" stack in the ceiling above his room. The top is wide open (meaning no rain shield), However I was told this is normal.

As you can see, there appears to be no moisture around the opening on the top if the roof, but it does look like the insulation might be a bit damp. I could not get up close as I did not want to walk across he attic...so these are from my zoom lens.

Is it possible it rained so hard, excess water got into the vent and they at the lower elbow it leaked out? That would mean the pvc was not perfectly sealed?

Or could the rain come in without actually touching the roof material? Outside the flashing (i think this is what it is called) looks perfect and no shingles are missing.

Any other ideas ?

Hope my question makes sense...


toofast 02-28-2011 07:41 PM

Could rain be coming in through a vent ?
 
4 Attachment(s)

Not sure if this will make sense, but I will attach a few pics to help...

Last night we had what they call a 100 year rain storm. Basically it rained inches and inches super fast.

The house is a few years old and I never ever had a leak. This morning my sons ceiling was quite wet...basically a spot 1 ft in diameter was soaked. Going outside, I noticed a "vent" stack in the ceiling above his room. The top is wide open (meaning no rain shield), However I was told this is normal.

As you can see, there appears to be no moisture around the opening on the top if the roof, but it does look like the insulation might be a bit damp. I could not get up close as I did not want to walk across he attic...so these are from my zoom lens.

Is it possible it rained so hard, excess water got into the vent and they at the lower elbow it leaked out? That would mean the pvc was not perfectly sealed?

Or could the rain come in without actually touching the roof material? Outside the flashing (i think this is what it is called) looks perfect and no shingles are missing.

Any other ideas ?

Hope my question makes sense...


toofast 02-28-2011 07:41 PM

Could rain be coming in through a vent ?
 
4 Attachment(s)

Not sure if this will make sense, but I will attach a few pics to help...

Last night we had what they call a 100 year rain storm. Basically it rained inches and inches super fast.

The house is a few years old and I never ever had a leak. This morning my sons ceiling was quite wet...basically a spot 1 ft in diameter was soaked. Going outside, I noticed a "vent" stack in the ceiling above his room. The top is wide open (meaning no rain shield), However I was told this is normal.

As you can see, there appears to be no moisture around the opening on the top if the roof, but it does look like the insulation might be a bit damp. I could not get up close as I did not want to walk across he attic...so these are from my zoom lens.

Is it possible it rained so hard, excess water got into the vent and they at the lower elbow it leaked out? That would mean the pvc was not perfectly sealed?

Or could the rain come in without actually touching the roof material? Outside the flashing (i think this is what it is called) looks perfect and no shingles are missing.

Any other ideas ?

Hope my question makes sense...


toofast 03-01-2011 06:31 AM

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well on closer inspection and a better lens on my camera it looks like I might see a slight crack...

wow...thanks for making me look at this again.

NOW the question is...can a DIY guy with some experience figure out how to safely get up on the steep roof ?

In my past life in college I had all the "right" gear to climb such a monster...now 30 years later...I have a really nice ladder

Any advice on how to safely navigate the roof for a diy'er would be appreciated.

Also, I've seen the "slip" on rubber boots? Are they a solid solution...vs. tearing up shingles ?


toofast 03-01-2011 06:31 AM

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well on closer inspection and a better lens on my camera it looks like I might see a slight crack...

wow...thanks for making me look at this again.

NOW the question is...can a DIY guy with some experience figure out how to safely get up on the steep roof ?

In my past life in college I had all the "right" gear to climb such a monster...now 30 years later...I have a really nice ladder

Any advice on how to safely navigate the roof for a diy'er would be appreciated.

Also, I've seen the "slip" on rubber boots? Are they a solid solution...vs. tearing up shingles ?


toofast 03-04-2011 12:56 PM

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Picture is worth a 1,000 words.

So as luck may have it, pretty good rain today. Decided to come home from work early and see if I could see anything.

sure enough...see drips of water on the camera.

So I climb into the crawl space...and low and behold the upper section, the last joint before going through the roof (as mentioned) just spins around like it was NEVER glued.

There was no water up top round the flashing...just a good amount of water at the joint.

My plan is to wait till is stops raining...reglue that joint.

THEN I think the whole pipe can be lifted by putting a block of wood on the lower 90 degree and then readusting the J clamps....there should be plenty of flex in the long runs. HATE to take everything apart...I may try the block first and see I can get away with that.

Long term I still will replace the flashing this summer...but at least it is not causing the immediate issue.

Thanks to all for their help!


toofast 03-08-2011 11:41 AM

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Well...hard to believe but STILL leaking.

So after 5 years of NO ISSUES, two separate issues at the same time. As soon as I fixed the original defect, meaning no glue AND there was a CAP on the line...so no venting.

Fixed it...see pic. Actually fix was easy, hard part was climbing with all tools across the attic.

Next day HUGE RAINS...HUGE LEAK still...

So now I have to go up on the roof or hire someone and fix the BOOT issue as well.



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