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f150dash 02-16-2009 02:18 PM

Need help on Siding issue ASAP
 
Hey guys new to the site, I am siding a house and have an issue. I have reached the top of the house and my siding is right on the level mark but, at one corner of the house I have 11 inches so more then one piece of siding to do and on the other corner it is 8 inches, I am not sure what will make it look good any help would be greatly appreciated. I can't bring the soffit down or it will mess up the fascia board. So that is where I stand. Thanks for the help in advance.
Jon

inspectorD 02-16-2009 06:25 PM

Well
 
What kind of siding are we dealing with? And pictures help alot with this type of issue. Sounds like you need to remove some siding and cheat stuff around. Looks like you found out what Us professionals already know...you don't always follow level. You really need to follow measurements and what looks right.
We are here to help, we have all done this once in our lifetimes.:D

f150dash 02-17-2009 05:55 PM

It's a D4.5 vinyl. there is no way to cheat on it as the corner that is out is above an addition so you have 30 ft in length to try and cheat o, then u get to a shorter area. best bet seems to be to cut to fit into the undersill and live with it. Anytime the siding is even off by 1/2" it is very noticeable.

inspectorD 02-17-2009 08:23 PM

Well
 
You can always loosen up the vinyl a bit. And in 30 feet, you can make up more than the 3 inch difference you have now. This is where the pic would help.
The siding is really going to be noticeable with a 3 inch out of level area. You could try putting a freeze board type of thing to break up the eye noticing it.Either way, you will see it. I just hope for your sake the wall siding and the soffit are the same color.:o
Hope this helps, there just may be no easy solution.

jdougn 02-18-2009 07:12 AM

F150,
Here's a pro tip. A pro would start by measuring vertically at both corners to see if the dimensions were the same. All attempts would be made to resolve any serious errors before installing the starter strip. Then, if there were still a dimensional difference, each row would be "cheated" slightly adding up to a significant amount at the top of the wall. Additionally, in all situations, a pro marks where each row lands and chaulks a horizontal line to make sure that all rows stay straight and that the job is even all the way to the top. If you must, remove all the siding and start over using improved procedures.
hth, Doug

tinner666 02-19-2009 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jdougn (Post 27869)
F150,
Here's a pro tip. A pro would start by measuring vertically at both corners to see if the dimensions were the same. All attempts would be made to resolve any serious errors before installing the starter strip. Then, if there were still a dimensional difference, each row would be "cheated" slightly adding up to a significant amount at the top of the wall. Additionally, in all situations, a pro marks where each row lands and chaulks a horizontal line to make sure that all rows stay straight and that the job is even all the way to the top. If you must, remove all the siding and start over using improved procedures.
hth, Doug

Well said.

f150dash 02-19-2009 12:53 PM

To "cheat" as you guys say is well not a way that is used around here...For one the windows are level you cheat with the siding you mess up the look of the the siding. I came on here for some idea's not to be put down by so called pros. How many of you live in an area that has mine shafts that run the whole town. I doublt to many. Houses here move constantly. and yes it was measured top to bottom and a site level was used. I am not trying to be nasty but the issue has been fixed without taking any siding down or cheating. So thanks for the advice, but I got better advice from non pros....Oh and if any of you are cheating by not locking the vinyl in I feel sorry for your clients plus it voids the warranty on your vinyl and that is straight from Kaykan. Cause that would end up being the last thing I would ever do.......Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I am one of the busiest contractors in my town, with the best referral rate....so I guess you would say in your terms I am a pro.....I had only wanted a different perspective on it and thought that it would come from here but since it got nasty, for me it turned me off to asking questions on here. You guys think you know all but one of the reasons I am as busy as I am is because I am not scared to ask something to fellow contractors, I get lots of ideas and work with the best ones. I don't know everything, if you think that you do in this business you are crazy, I know guys that have been in it for 40 years and say wow didnt know you could do that that way. Next time someone ask you a question don't assume they are not pros because they asked. Maybe they just wanted a second perspective.

tinner666 02-19-2009 01:04 PM

"Oh and if any of you are cheating by not locking the vinyl in I feel sorry for your clients plus it voids the warranty on your vinyl and that is straight from Kaykan. Cause that would end up being the last thing I would ever do.......Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I am one of the busiest contractors in my town, with the best referral rate....so I guess you would say in your terms I am a pro....."

That was never suggested. By cheating, I'm quite sure he meant the same thing I did. Change the line on that end by 1/16" to 1/8" upwards. There is some 'wiggle-room' with siding, framing, and shingles. The other end could have been lowered the same way.
Whenever the bottom and/or top plates don't allow us to run 'straight', we call it cheating. Not the same thing as taking short-cuts.
That's what I meant when i agreed with the other post. So, I'll 'speak' for me at least.
But, Ill bet that's what he meant.
Friends?

f150dash 02-19-2009 01:40 PM

I felt like the cheating was meant in a different way more of a shortcut and i felt like i was being talked down to.I don't talk to my employees that way so i don't expect to be talked to in that way. I am very professional and try to treat everyone with respect "You get what you give" is my motto. So i do applogize if I was rude. I will give a little more back ground on the job. I am covering a house that has some small shakes and some large ones for siding. It is getting covered with styrofold (leveler) then tyvek then the siding. So the new siding has to be below the old to cover it. and the foundation is only 6 to 8 inches above grade. So there is not alot of room for movement. Friends yes...lol

inspectorD 02-19-2009 02:54 PM

Well I never...
 
Sorry if I was the one you feel was talking down to you. Usually we professionals are here alone to sort out homeowner issues after they get in over their heads. And as a contractor you should have a thicker skin...mine is like leather!! That's a joke..please don't get any inference from it.:D
But back to your situation, what did you do to remedy the problem?
And when I make a remark like cheating, it is just a phrase to get it to fit, but always lock it in and do it right. NO shortcuts.
We are all here to help folks out, not demoralize them.
And I definitely do not know everything, and never said I did, so please don't put words in my mouth, they get in the way of my foot.:)


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