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guyod 01-12-2008 07:31 PM

stapling vinyl siding
 
Has anyone used a siding staple gun or nailer to install vinyl siding. I am install siding on a cider block home and if i have to hammer 1 1/4 nails by hand in the cold i may start breaking things.

Any info would be great.
Thanks

mudmixer 01-12-2008 08:37 PM

You cannot attach vinyl siding tightly. It must have "loose" nails/attachments that let it move with the temperature extremes.

guyod 01-13-2008 08:20 AM

I know I know. Not my first siding job. They make a "vinyl siding stapler" and "Vinyl siding nuematic nailer". They are made to leave a gap. I seen the nailer at Home depot and was a little pricy $350. Just seen the stapler online. there is even a cord less version seemed handy no price though. How good they work, i dont know... That my question

Daryl in Nanoose 01-13-2008 09:13 AM

I personly would like to see this stapler because as far as I understood you need a nail with a good sized head on them.

guyod 01-13-2008 09:58 AM

A staple would go through the nailing hole and the top of the siding. manufacter Installation instructions refer to stapling or nailing but that is all they say about stapling. Here is a cordless pasolode stapler that does it

http://www.oldhouseweb.com/stories/Detailed/839.shtml

other naumatic staplers have attachments for siding

Daryl in Nanoose 01-13-2008 10:12 AM

Interesting gun, I'll have to keep my eye on this one even though I don't install final siding maybe good for other uses.

glennjanie 01-13-2008 02:35 PM

Hello Guyod:
The problem with the pneumatic nailer, if you can get it to drive a nail in the concrete blocks, the interior of the block will flake off leaving very little holding the vinyl siding.
I did a concrete block house in the mid 80s with masonry drill, plastic anchors and screws. It burned up 2 masonry bits but the job went very well and is still looking good to this day. They had tapcons and aj's back then but the price was exhorbitant.
I have done some jobs on furring strips too and that's a mess I'll never subject myself to again.
Glenn

booft 01-13-2008 03:14 PM

So is this a real nail type siding gun? Im confused here, I know they need to be loose but wouldnt this make it end up being too tight?

guyod 01-13-2008 07:10 PM

you sided an entire house with anchors and screws??? How long did that take? My plan was to use furring strips which im stuck using since half the house is already aluminum sided with furring strips (ripping off) and the gable roof peaks are framed padded out. im not a big fan of furring strips either. espcially around windows. but this 1200sf house only has 5 windows!!!

booft: Yes they make a coil nailer just like a roofing gun i guess it uses the same nails. then there is a gun that uses staples. they both leave a gap. dont ask me how (thats why i stated the thread) but there advertised to do so.
my main concern was how accurate you can be with them. i have a roofing nailer and cant image trying to use that to find the nailing hole in the siding

inspectorD 01-14-2008 07:49 AM

Ok
 
Those staplers work OK, they are made for just siding. The stop is preset. I would not get one because I sub contract that out anyway. For as much siding you are going to put on ...you don't need it. Hand nailing is not much slower with firring strips.
If you are going to nail it tight, there is also a siding with a web mesh above the nailing flange which allows for the expantion. I just cannot remember who.....
Try www.vinylsiding.org


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