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Old 06-02-2014, 01:53 PM  
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Hello. This is my first post here, resorting to asking for advice on how to approach crumbling concrete steps to the porch of my house. I"m attaching some photos that hopefully will explain what's going on.



The steps appear to have been patched before, but poorly. I can access the back of the steps under the porch from the basement in order to frame up and pour to fill, but will this work? Each step appears to be ready to fall apart. My thought was to clean out everything that is broken, completely fill all the gaps after framing, possibly with angle irons in the back or something of that nature, and then cover the steps with some kind of sealer or topcoat.

The complicated part is that the steps tie into the brick on either side, as well as the handrail. I'd really like to not have to smash it all out and start over, although I'm sure that would be the best method. I'm looking for the simplest fix that will get me a few more years before I'm ready to try and sell the place (plenty other fixes required in the meanwhile).

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks.



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Those steps look beyond repair to me. Time to remove and start over.

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Sorry if these images are too large. I can resize them if it's a problem.

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Those steps look beyond repair to me. Time to remove and start over.
I believe you.
But why the replace, and not repair, option?
What are these pix telling you that a layperson like me is not seeing?
TIA.
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The height of each step should be within 1/4" of all the rest including from the sidewalk to the first step and the last step up on the porch.
I think along with the rest, that is what Joe is looking at.
I think it is time to take them out, repair brick as required and maybe just build wood stairs out of treated lumber.

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You might try a homemade concrete pump, it forces concrete into crevices.
Mine is a 1" ID, 1' long copper pipe for the cylinder and a wooden dowel with OD slightly less than the pipe ID, for the piston.

This piston slides easier if it's narrowed in the middle like a connecting rod for an engine, see
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Now you've got three options.

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Even if they are repaired they are not near code and when selling the house a sharp buyer will knock the peice down by a few to five grand to replace the stairs. They weren't done right and the last repair is about what you would get again. Not worth the effort.

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I believe you.
But why the replace, and not repair, option?
What are these pix telling you that a layperson like me is not seeing?
TIA.
I hope you are joking with that question. The concrete is totally disintegrated. I don't see anything there to save. You would be lucky to not fall through them just walking up them.


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