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bethany14 10-09-2006 09:18 AM

Stone front porch
 
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I'm having a hard time finding info on how to construct a stone porch. Does anyone out there know where I can find some info?
Thanks!
Oh, and here's a pic of what I'm thinking:


bethany14 10-14-2006 07:44 AM

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Thanks Mudmixer, your name lets me know you know what you're talking about on this

So, if I poured a continuous footing and set some cinder blocks in it (with rebar, right?) and then faced it with pretty stones I could achieve that look, right? Or, I could skip the stones altogether and muddy up the face of the cinder wall to coordinate with the 'stucco' facade of my home... So then, what would my floor joists attach to, and how? Would I attach my beams to the cinder wall and hang joists like usual? Or would the joists hang right on the cinder wall with some sort of masonry joist hangar?

As for the porch roof, it will attach as any other roof would, but it will be 100% supported by the porch structure.

Quote:
Why not consult a professional?
That is what I hope to accomplish here

Here's what I've got so far for my plans, they are not finished though!!! And if you want, you can check out my house in my gallery.
Thanks for your help!!

bethany14 10-20-2006 07:44 AM

Nevermind, here goes plan B
 
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Can't seem to find enough info on stonework for porches, so here's my lumber plan. I'll head to permitting monday AM, so let me know what I should change before then! Thanks in advance for your input!

edited to add: the plan doesn't include tying the new front porch to the old side porch. we'll attack that later.
edited again to add: as of 10/28 Still haven't made it to permitting --keep changing the plan!


bethany14 10-20-2006 07:44 AM

Nevermind, here goes plan B
 
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Can't seem to find enough info on stonework for porches, so here's my lumber plan. I'll head to permitting monday AM, so let me know what I should change before then! Thanks in advance for your input!

edited to add: the plan doesn't include tying the new front porch to the old side porch. we'll attack that later.
edited again to add: as of 10/28 Still haven't made it to permitting --keep changing the plan!


bethany14 10-23-2006 01:08 PM

If you've got answers, I've got questions
 
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Thanks K2
I'm warming to the idea of a continuous footing. I can rent a terramite back hoe for about $200 incl delivery...that appeals to me more than renting an auger and digging 8 footers. Both are feasible, I imagine the continuous footer would provide a far more rigid structure. Since I'm raising 8x8 posts up to the 2nd story deck (which will hopefully support a vegetated roof) I like the idea of them beginning at rail height.
So, I envision a continuous wall that rises to just about floor height, and then built up blocks to rail height with posts resting on them. But then, should I be worried about moisture trapped under the porch? And what about the posts next to the house? This has to be free-standing, so I can't get around that.
Another thing I'm confused about, is what's the difference between resting the floor joists on top of the beams and hanging the joists from the beams? Seems to me hanging them is simpler and more efficient...but do you lose strength by doing that?
One more thing
If I secure the post to the block footing, can I also rest my beams on the footing? Could I sandwich the post with 2-2x10's? Or, should I set the beams on the block footings and rest the posts on them? Or would the continuous wall up to floor height then become the beam? And if so, how wide should the block wall be in order to support beams/joists at one level, and posts at another?
And lastly, am I making this more complicated than it has to be? Sorry if so, and thanks for any & all input


bethany14 10-25-2006 11:19 AM

more ideas...
 
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I sure like the look of this hodge-podge stone arrangement...



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