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Old 04-14-2014, 08:48 PM  
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New book called "The Divide" by Matt Taibbi seems to fit right into this thread:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/books/review/the-divide-by-matt-taibbi.html?_r=0



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Did you get your money from the lien filed?

No, not yet. A lein doesn't guarantee you receive payment.


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No, not yet. A lein doesn't guarantee you receive payment.
But Big Al does... big Al makes sure you get paid...and his cut is always smaller than the lawyers.
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New book called "The Divide" by Matt Taibbi seems to fit right into this thread:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/books/review/the-divide-by-matt-taibbi.html?_r=0
Here's another
http://www.amazon.com/Arrest-Proof-Yourself-Ex-Cop-Reveals-Arrested/dp/1556526377
but it may not have worked for the guy in your excerpt.
This ex-cop said one time they went after everyone who was out between 1AM and 4AM and almost 100% of them had a rap sheet.
He also talked about a "nine ball machine", a shotgun that fires 9 hardened steel balls, and bragged (it seemed to me) that three shots at any car guarantees all the passengers will be immediately dead.
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Well i went to the land office. So an interesting update. The deed was amended in 2000 the front is 57 ft instead of 50 ft! There must have been some fight about it because they both owners agreed at the time. So i just gain 700 ft.

So what the doc says is that the land goes from the NW point so the first neighbor. So even though i thought i lost 3 ft it doesn't matter, it is really this old man beside me that is gonna a lose. Obviously he is not happy about this, that is why he keeps "saying i don't like fences.' He talked to the surveyor last year too. The surveyor didn't mark that point, but the old guy already knew about it.

Strange thing is that he has a garage at back starting at about 52 ft. So i guess i just make a square fence around him giving 1ft allowance for the garage. The front is wide open. I guess that's where the new drive way is going.

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I guess that's where the new drive way is going.
Get it in writing before anyone commits any bucks.
To paraphrase some dialog from a foreign film I saw on the subject of law: the law doesn't care about the truth, it cares about what can be proved.

And a lawyer at the gym sort of agreed with me & the film. He said that what a jury decides is taken to be the truth.
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To paraphrase some dialog from a foreign film I saw on the subject of law: the law doesn't care about the truth, it cares about what can be proved.
Oui! It is from a foreign film called: "A Few Good Men"
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Nah, this was a film with subtitles, maybe from Holland, the attorney who said that had a speech impediment, the hero of the film was suspected of killing his father, his mother never married, the hero read almost through an entire encyclopedia.

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Wazzat? -

You have to understand the basis for laws and methods of determining the property actually loaned. It is not uncommon for property line since that basis is the grounds for individual and country boundaries over time.

Every country has different property laws just as they have different languages and interpretations.

It is not uncommon for old surveys to be reviewed and new boundaries determined to properly establish the rights and obligations.

Keep in mind that many original land surveys (section corners to start from) were done by counting the revolutions of a rag tied to a horse drawn wagon and then adjusted using a compass before the cyclic magnetic declination was even thought of.

Property come with both rights and obligations that must be treated and balanced legally. Then, they must be adjusted for the advances of technology to blend the old, new and long established use of the property in good faith. Often, adjacent owners have a old survey blended into an existing situation using surveyors and engineers.

My mother fell into that situation when a new buyer of a lake lot wanted to build a home on someone else property based on an old survey (50 to 100 years old) he had and thought that that was gospel. The adjacent owners knew better, so they had a survey done to determine the property corners and found that about 25 adjacent owners had built and liked in large lots (narrow and deep) and built on what was assumed to be their lot through the years. All the lots were lake shore frontage (big $$$s) and construction was based on at the methods of the time. Everyone found out that they had buildings and driveways that were on a neighbors property.

They just jointly had a new survey done to determine the property lines that fit the situations. - My mother had a road/driveway on one neighbors property, her dock on the other neighbors property and her house too close to one to get a permit for remodeling. This was typical.Everyone hired a surveyor to determine property corners that fit the current use and adjust the common points on the angular curving road to be adjusted for slope difference and magnetic declination over the years and give the county an idea where the road that had to be maintained.

The survey covered about 5,000 feet of shoreline and was unanimously accepted by the county, property owners and the heirs of the current owners.

At least everyone had a new definition that fit what they bought, used and paid taxes on. Fortunately they were within a mile or so of a known steel section corner.

In Jungle's situation, adjacent property owners can jointly accept a later proper determination by a land surveyor to amend a property line location an a correction to the old lines as long as it does not affect others. - It sure makes it easier to put up fences and detrmine the maintenance.

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Well new turn of events. My brains hurts.

So i was arguing with the neighbor about the 57 feet. So he decided to get his own survey. Same company that i hired.

Same company same waste of time, 2 guys 16 hours x $150=$2400 tax. for him.

So even though there was an amendment in the deed in 2000, 'Stan' did something wrong and hired some incompetent person. So there is some discrepancy in the deed which nixes it. In other words i am back to 50 feet. How crazy is that? If only Stan had built a fence.

Now, what it turns out is when they did the survey last year i was right about the first neighbor. They are losing their shed and driveway. They just didn't want to do the survey because they thought i wasn't going to pay them i take it. Why wouldn't they tell me the good news, i would have paid happily i don't know. Maybe they are lying again to me to get me to pay them $1000?

I found another surveyor for $1200 he will do the all 4 stakes. It will take some time. Maybe i should just pay the $1000 to the first surveyor? I guess they did do the work. They are arrogant but them seem to well respected and know what they are doing. They are just pushy for money. I can't help thinking they are screwing me on the 7 feet because i didn't pay them. Or am i being paranoid?
The guys said i get my 50 feet today which puts the property line in the middle of their drive way, as i thought originally. This thing ain't over yet.
I don't know if it is worth it to pay another surveyor, you would think they would all have the same answers. But....



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