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Square Eye 03-21-2006 12:57 PM

Is DIY TV a lot of hype?

Is DIY TV really intended to help the average homeowner, or is it just good advertising for the sponsors?

My opinion.

While watching This Old House, I was struck with the notion that this is NOT a DIY show. There was a $1,000,000.00 drilling rig there looking for water. Then in another episode, a cocrete pumper. Yet another episode, a company specializing in lifting houses and other structures. This is not the type of project that falls under DIY categories.

Legalities make plumbing/electrical/HVAC on shows like Hometime a professional venture. Dean doesn't replace water heaters when he gets off of work for his ex-wife. At least not on camera. He can't. License requirements make it legally incriminating to do work like this for others.

Ask This Old House, trimming trees looked like a good subject for the DIY. Then they went to a home where there was a tree that was separating in a fork. Suddenly the show went from homeowners looking at a problem to a bunch of professionals climbing the tree and setting tie bolts to save the tree.
Once again, Not a DIY project.

The New Yankee Workshop, Norm has more tools than ANYBODY. Big specialty machines. I have a fair cabinet oriented shop, but not a Timesaver panel sander in sight. That is a $14,000.00 dollar machine!

I suppose the point of these segments of these shows is to let folks know that some things are better left to the pros. I kind of wish that they would focus more on the things that homeowners can actually do with their old houses and their new ones too. Maybe that's why I like Ron Hazelton's House Calls. Short, quick home repair and remodeling. If brother Ron was younger, he would probably do bigger projects though. His sponsors would demand it.

Tom in KY, Flush Bob Villa! He gets his hair done and reads from a script. Given enough $$ we could all do that.

TxBuilder 03-21-2006 01:51 PM

DIY shows in regards to major construction aren't for the average home DIYer.

However, my wife watches a bunch of DIY decor, gardening, simple DIY stuff and I'm forced to watch them. I must say they actually give some good tips and ideas on what to do.

inspectorD 03-21-2006 08:46 PM

Hey Square Eye..
Stop watching TV...Isn't that what this site is for? The DIY folks!!You keep forgeting that you are a posting star!!
Tv is way to stressfull anymore.
In that same type of direction, I just finished my professionals "Remodeling" magazine.Out of 140 pages, I counted 90 advertisment Pages, and 40 actual artical pages.
This is why I tell folks that marketing at it's best is the worst way to do something.These products dont always perform or are used in the wrong applications. It has changed the trades and sometimes not in a good way.
The good way is that it at least shows the newer products and what we can expect from them at there best!! This gives us the guage to start from and go down from there unfortuntly.

DP from,:D

Drywallhelper 06-27-2006 12:28 PM

I agree that alot of these projects require some basic knowledge and tools. When viewing these shows and one sees all these projects running along without a hitch. I think this is mis-leading and can result in discouragement.
I have been in the business for over 30 years and the reason I have aquired some of the skills I posess is due to having to correct my own mistakes. I have been told the person who makes no mistakes is the person who does nothing.
DIY shows can be helpful. But its more about the stars and sponsers.
My own efforts to introduce a simple tool that would be a great aid to most DIYer's concerning drywall installation fell on deaf ears with these shows.

bethany14 10-11-2006 07:33 AM

I always feel so suprised and disappointed each time I notice something in media has been designed to get us to buy more stuff...even though I already knew our country moves forward upon capitalism. I love this site, and I'm so grateful for it. With the exception of the occasionnal spammer, we don't hear about a product unless someone is using it. And what we read are actual testimonials, not some actor 'endorsing' a product. I agree InspectorD, stop watching TV!

Square Eye 10-11-2006 09:54 AM

Trying to keep the spammers deleted and pruned back out of the way. If you see one that stays on for more than a day or 2.. Send me a PM and tell me where he is or the user name. I'll get rid of it as soon as I see it.

bethany14 10-11-2006 01:36 PM

Spammers are so few and far between around here, keep up the great work!

inspectorD 10-11-2006 05:39 PM

You folks out there probably don't realize how much Square Eye does to keep this site clean....there are a lot of spammers out there. Just look at your simple E-mail junk.....

Great job to Square Eye for volunteering, and to the adm. for scoopin him up.:D

As for those DIY shows....again it's the "Red Green show" hands down.:eek:
"If the women don't find you least they will find you handy, and don't forget.... keep your stick on the ice.";)

Kerrylib 10-12-2006 02:28 PM

What about budgets for these shows? You don't ever see a budget in the $5k range with the homeowner doing the bulk of the work. It's usually hinted at, "We have a tight budget, but....."

Lets see them do a project start to finish, show us the floorplans, materials costs, labor costs, total time involved, etc.

That would give everyone a true perspective as to what they are doing on these shows.

wienerwater 10-18-2006 10:44 PM

I personally have a problem with all the so called DIY shows popping up all the time now.I find this old house way out of line as being a DIY show. I think maybe it's what it say, "This old House", just a show about renovating older, maybe more classic, houses.But we're talking high end budgets to play with, expensive homes, and more financially set owners. New Yankee Workshop, isn't that Norm, who works on This Old House as well? Similar sponsors etc?
The others seem mainly geared to low cost reno's, done with used junk, cheap paint and little thought about eventual resale value. I have looked at a ton of homes on the market, and seen MANY of these personal upgrades that look like they are:cheap junk and trying to make a big buck with their cover-ups.Buyer beware, I say! Hometime seems very decent, straight to the point and direct about many DIY projects.Always puting emphasis on ones abilities and costs, and basic techniques.I've personally tackled many tasks, building shops, flooring, electrical,plumbing, concrete work etc, but also know the building/electrical codes, so I always plan to do it right from the start (or the safest way).Ever notice people on some shows, say installing insulation? One clip shows people in the background with no dust masks, safety glasses maybe, then the next closeup they have them on? I suggest always use better judgement, research it and never skimp on safety if you do venture forward on any project.

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