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Old 06-04-2014, 12:44 PM  
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I wonder how many buckets this will take?



50 miles from the Oso, WA slide. FEMA says we should be "ashamed of ourselves" for trying to piggyback the need for a road to our community on that tragedy. 250 people's homes are cut off and they think we're just whining?



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Old 06-04-2014, 02:46 PM  
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FEMA says we should be "ashamed of ourselves" for trying to piggyback the need for a road to our community on that tragedy. 250 people's homes are cut off and they think we're just whining?
FEMA takes the high moral ground? You should thank them for making it clear early on that you all will have to sue some agency to get this fixed.

You also notice that they are framing this as
they are the parents and
you are the unruly children.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=shaming+behavior&ie= UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

My mortgage company also acts provocatively.
They want you to act out of anger so they will have something on you. Right now they don't.

Look up some of their scandals and then you can take back the high moral ground.

If they've been sued for misconduct or incompetence it must be in the public record. Does 'Katrina' sound familiar?
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22v.+fema%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And if some agency did any civil engineering work in the area they might have 'enabled' this to happen, in other words, this event was 'reasonably foreseeable'.

BTW, if you can supply the shape and the dims of this mess I can probably tell you cubic yards. Eight hours x 250 people = 2000 person-hours of labor. In my area it costs three cents per pound to dispose of fill dirt.


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Carnuck, Have they found everyone that was missing, hope all is well for you and yours.

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Old 06-06-2014, 04:14 PM  
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Luckily no-one here was swept away. It was pretty slow moving and eventually they claim we will have a catastophic fail. Now we have to fight the greenies (who want us to abandon our homes that AREN'T in danger but they may be "poisioning the river" even though it's not a new community)

I think only 1 person is still missing at Oso.

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Are they offering to pay you to move, buy your house

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They are telling us (250 people) to pick up an leave and forget we were ever there. Try telling that to the bank that loaned us money to buy. My wife and I put our life savings into building there to retire.

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I guess you could sue but that's risky and FEMA might have the court records sealed for cases that went against them so it will be hard to get a history for this type thing.

It'd be useful to find out what people did in similar situations in the past but how would this even be researched? Civil engineering journals might have examples of successful outcomes and you might look for a journal that publishes cases of the Army Corps of Engineers.

How much to clear this mess?
By what method?
How much for a new road?
How much is that per head?

"class n. in legal (not sociological) terms, all those persons in the same category, level of rights (e.g. heirs of dead person who are related by the same degree), or who have suffered from the same incident. Whether a person is part of a class is often crucial in determining who can sue on behalf of the people who have been similarly damaged or collect his/her share if a class action judgment is given. (See: class action)"

Also, if there is a law library nearby you could look up caselaw for this type of thing.

Try http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/
They helped me once on an employment law issue.

If you get bids you are 100% sure of paying that price. If you sue you are maybe 50% sure of paying some big bucks and it may last for years so the expected cost or 'expected value' of a lawsuit is difficult to calculate.

It'd be good if you could get this situation into the papers or on TV.

And I thought I had troubles.

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The county won't allow permits to even touch the slide area until $100K+ is spent on an engineer who may/may not say it's possible. That's why we are going with a bridge across, against high opposition from greenies. Mostly because we are "selling" access to SNOPud to pay for 1/2 our bridge.

http://www.savetheskyriver.org/mircc-bridge-issues/

http://www.monroemonitor.com/2014/05/20/mt-index-riversites-bridge-story/

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The county won't allow permits to even touch the slide area until $100K+ is spent on an engineer who may/may not say it's possible. That's why we are going with a bridge across, against high opposition from greenies. Mostly because we are "selling" access to SNOPud to pay for 1/2 our bridge.

http://www.savetheskyriver.org/mircc-bridge-issues/

http://www.monroemonitor.com/2014/05/20/mt-index-riversites-bridge-story/

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After all is said and done will your home have resale value?



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