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Old 02-12-2014, 08:27 AM  
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Just run another stat up stairs and switch to that one at night.



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Old 02-12-2014, 08:47 AM  
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We had a nice balmy 16F this morning, breaking a string of 17 consecutive days since will not down below zero before midnight. We just got snow of 0.4" that meant nothing and not like the ice and snow problems in the SE part of the U.S.

We have been protected by the polar cold and not really appreciable snow or ice since keeping below zero even for highs lead to the "winter blahs" were there are no real problems except black ice in the morning since the main roads and streets are bare. - Now we may be entering the warming & melting season that is more challenging to live with. I had my SUV washed 2 weeks ago and it is still spotless and there are no droppings on the floor. I will take "crunchy" snow to warmer snow.

The lake golfing on the ice is doing well, but usually carts and cars are not allowed even with good ice.

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Last night I ran into a father and son that were embarking on an expedition to cross our bay here in Erie on foot. It’s really not that wide maybe 2 miles at its widest point and as a kid I skated across it many times and it’s covered with ice fishing shacks so you are never more than 100 yards from some kind of shelter. I had to laugh the ice must be over a foot thick now but they had made wrist straps with nails in them in case they fell thru to claw their way out. But on the other hand underdressed for the cold IMO. I didn’t hear but I’m pretty sure they made it.
When I was just out of high school a friend crossed Lake Erie on foot before such activity was banned. Now that was an impressive act I thought. Once the news of his crossing hit every thrill seeker thought they would give it a try and the coast guard has all but put a stop to it.

You mentioned ice golf. I never tried it but they do a charity event each winter here and set a golf course up on the bay. One of these years I should go down and at least watch it if not sign up. Ours is pull carts only.


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Just run another stat up stairs and switch to that one at night.

Oh boy that might leave the down stairs cold in the AM. But you got me thinking if I could flip between two stats easy to do and have that switch on a timer that would flip about an hour before we wake up that could work and save some fuel in the process. Does anyone sell a unit that does such a thing I wonder?
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Two low voltage timed switches, one for each stat. Something like this. http://www.solar-electric.com/fldctico.html

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Leaving Stratton Mtn, VT, the other day the car sensor said -5F.

The Outside Design Temperature where I live is +14F but global warming will probably make that number moot.

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Bud, with a programable, it wouldn't take long to figure the temp to set for night to keep the upstairs compfortable.

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Bud, with a programable, it wouldn't take long to figure the temp to set for night to keep the upstairs compfortable.

That’s my point if I set the down stairs for 65 and the outside temp is 30 the upstairs stays about 65. If I set down stairs for 65 and the outside temp is -10 the upstairs will be 78. Reason being is with a low outside the furnace cycles so much more that it overpowers the upstairs.

What I really need is a stat up that when temp hits 70 it closes the vent until it drops to 65.

Or do what I’m now learning and when it’s very cold go upstairs and close the damper 80% just the opposite of what you would think on a cold night. The next morning I should close it 95%.
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look at the timers in post 24

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That’s a nice little timer but still during the day when I’m heating down stairs nothing but a manual operated damper upstairs will shut off the excessive heat from going up during the daytime when we are downstairs. Logic says that heat loss up is a constant as is heat loss down, and when its super cold I shouldn’t be getting proportionally more heat up than down just because it cycles more but that is what seems to happen. May be due to down stairs has a variable loss rate while up is constant because we are always opening and closing doors going in and out. Another factor is that the stat is located fairly close to the door to go up and when you open that door the unheated stairs lets in some cold and fires the furnace. There is also no cold air return up so that has to be pulling cold air under the stairway door also.

The best thing would be a motorized damper on the ducts going up that’s on a timer maybe. That could save a lot of heat because we are only up there max 8 hours out of 24.

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As a side note we had a 50 plus degree temp swing today.



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