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Old 12-24-2011, 02:47 PM  
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Default condo in chicago - wiring for new fan

my problem is the following. I would like to add hot/neutral/ground wires to an existing outlet to power ceiling fan. i have already run the romex cable now i need to properly connect it in the outlet. the outlet is the following. it used to have one bridge broken. one bridge not broken. part of the outlet is always hot. the other part of the outlet is only then hot when I flip the switch on the wall. i wanted to connect ceiling fan to the part of the outlet that can be hot when the switch is flipped..so in effect when I flip the switch the fan starts running (light is on). I have done this excersise twice already in a different apartment. in each case both sides of the outlet had both bridges broken. this one is different and I am lost. I provide video and pictures. I hope it will help - really appreciate any input - thanks




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Old 12-25-2011, 07:39 AM  
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Are you aware that in Chicago romex, or NM cable, is NOT allowed, at all??

I have NO idea why they sell it in home centers.



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Old 12-25-2011, 08:07 AM  
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Are you aware that in Chicago romex, or NM cable, is NOT allowed, at all??

I have NO idea why they sell it in home centers.
. the cable

Romex SIMpull 25 ft. White 14/2 NM-B Cable-28827421 at The Home Depot

works just fine without metal tubing covered in insulation in TX (attic area). I see no reason it will not work here. all it will support is just a fan
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. the cable

Romex SIMpull 25 ft. White 14/2 NM-B Cable-28827421 at The Home Depot

works just fine without metal tubing covered in insulation in TX (attic area). I see no reason it will not work here. all it will support is just a fan
I didn't say it wouldn't work, I said it was not a compliant install, for anyone who likes to keep things code complaint. And in Chicago this is a big one.

Like I said, the fact they even sold it to you without saying anything is very irresponsible on their part.
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would you please offer advise how to properly wire the outlet ? thanks

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Old 12-26-2011, 06:03 AM  
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Since this is a completely non-complaint installation, with no indication of intent to do it correctly, I respectfully withdraw from advising any further.

I'm sure someone else will though.

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Ok so let's bring it up to code. I realize that in case of fire insurance will deny my claim as the wiring is not up to code. Would u advise what cable to use and how to wire the thing? Thanks a lot

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Old 12-26-2011, 07:17 AM  
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In Chicago you CAN'T use cable. You must use conduit(pipe) and THHN wires.

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Ok. I will replace the wire ...do u have any input on how to connect the outlet? Thanks

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The hot side has 2 black wires under 1 hot screw and a yellow wire under the other hot screw. I don't know which side is switched and which side is constant hot.
Attach your fan hot wire into the back of the outlet in the stab in hole.

The neutral has 1 white wire in the back of the oultet in the stab in hole and 2 white wires under the screw.
Attach your fan neutral wire into the back of the outlet in the stabe in hole.
If this is not the switched half of your outlet, then attach your fan neutral under the screw.

However, what I would do is group all the hots for the top half of the outlet under a wire nut with a pigtail and attach the pigtail to the top hot screw of the outlet. Then group all the neutrals for the top half of the outlet under a wire nut with a pigtail and attach the pigtail to the top neutral screw of the outlet. Repeat this procedure for the bottom half of the oulet, hot & neutral. Include your fan wires in wire nut grouping that is the switched power.

And of course you'll use conduit and THNN wire in addition to pulling a permit



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