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Old 03-11-2013, 01:45 AM  
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No. Do not wire this way.
An expanation might be helpfull


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An expanation might be helpfull
Put lights on load side, then they are slave to the gfci. So when it trips, its lights out.


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I know it says that in the code, just before the excepts. I don't quite understand the arguement. The lights are already slave to power outages and the breaker but what you are saying is sorta in the code and is industry practise. Fair enough, but just saying no to someone with out explanation dosn't help people learn.
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I know it says that in the code, just before the excepts. I don't quite understand the arguement. The lights are already slave to power outages and the breaker but what you are saying is sorta in the code and is industry practise. Fair enough, but just saying no to someone with out explanation dosn't help people learn.
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Got a code reference?
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No but I found this discussion.
http://www.thebuildingcodeforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5453.html

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Guess I should live in Mass.
Checked it out-if new install, then it is permissible-but not required.
I just would not want to be on toilet or in shower and lights go out just b/c the GFCI tripped for some reason.
To me, it's an inconvenience. I wire bathrooms where the home run goes to the switch box, power goes from here to GFCI and then onto other outlets and power to one side of the switch and the lighting switch leg to the other side. This way the lights are controlled only by the switch.
It's unpractical to take power to the outlets and THEN to the switch for lighting. I've never seen it done and will NEVER do it that way.
I only want other outlets to be slave to the GFCI.
To me, lighting is separate from power. It's the way I've done it for 20+ years.
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Fair enough but go back on this whole story and see if anyone asked if the switches were far enough away from the shower or the placement of the fan and the reach of a hand held shower head. Cheri and her hubby were to frustrated to answer twenty more questions, so help them get it working, as safe as possible and then go back and ask the other questions and make suggestions on possibly changing it. Just don't assume everything else is safe in the room, if you were there you would have looked at all this stuff.
If one of these kicks while you are on the toilet, you do have a problem

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Fair enough but go back on this whole story and see if anyone asked if the switches were far enough away from the shower or the placement of the fan and the reach of a hand held shower head. Cheri and her hubby were to frustrated to answer twenty more questions, so help them get it working, as safe as possible and then go back and ask the other questions and make suggestions on possibly changing it. Just don't assume everything else is safe in the room, if you were there you would have looked at all this stuff.
If one of these kicks while you are on the toilet, you do have a problem
Neal,
I read that first paragraph 2-3 times and I have no idea what your talking about.
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Maybe this will help. They talk about a hand held shower
http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_inspection/electrical-systems-home-inspection-commercial-inspection/12815-nice-two-person-tub-shocking-experience.html#post79825

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Unfortunately, we can't have the lights going off if/when the GFI trips. You will need to power the lights directly from the source and not through the GFI. The only thing I saw missing in the OP's diagram was a lack of neutral & ground to the light fixutres.
Sorry Sparky, I was out-numbered on this one. I tried but, fell on deaf ears without a code reference.


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