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Old 07-20-2011, 03:08 PM  
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My thinking is that you have 2 breakers to turn off. Often three wire are used to save wire. The black and red each have there own breaker and they share the white and ground if you have a ground. The extra wire should be nutted in the box, just keep in mind that wire may be live when you turn off the breaker for the light. When you turn off your breaker, take the cover off the breaker box and see where the other wire goes. There are other reasons for using 3 wire but this is worth checking out.
thanks for the reply. i will be going to my brother's house within a few days and i will take a long look inside the box. going from what he has said:
the left switch has two wires, one wire on the left screw and one jumper wire on the right screw. the jumper hooks to the right switch's left terminal with a wire (i'm presuming a power wire) under the jumper wire. the right switches right screw (or terminal) has a red wire hooked to the right terminal. there are two white wires that are wire-nutted together in the box.
i will make sure none of the wires are live before i work on them. i don't think there is a an extra wire that is nutted in the box but i will certainly look.


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Old 07-21-2011, 12:34 PM  
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Is the outlet half switched? another words does the switch control one of the plugs and the other one is always live? More than likely this is the case! To check this if you are not sure test the outlet with the switch off and then with the switch on!
How this is wired is the power feeds into the outlet, at this point it feeds half the outlet then continues on a 3 wire to the switch on the black wire hot, feeds the switches, then the power for the other half of the outlet is sent from the switch on the red wire back to the outlet and power from the other switch going to the porch light.

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Is the outlet half switched? another words does the switch control one of the plugs and the other one is always live? More than likely this is the case! To check this if you are not sure test the outlet with the switch off and then with the switch on!
How this is wired is the power feeds into the outlet, at this point it feeds half the outlet then continues on a 3 wire to the switch on the black wire hot, feeds the switches, then the power for the other half of the outlet is sent from the switch on the red wire back to the outlet and power from the other switch going to the porch light.
i don't know if half the plug is controlled by the switch. my brother only said that the switch stopped working for the plug and this is what started the whole scenario. i'll check it out thoroughly though. thanks for your reply.
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