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nealtw
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Carbon credits, sound like a scam and take away from making it believible, we have the tax on our gas.
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I like Russel quite a bit.
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Never having heard of this I put in a library loan request. This Russell dude was no dummy.
Throughout the history of mankind there have always been those who profit from the fears or needs of others. The Rain Man in the 1930 dust bowl comes to mind. Or the promise of saving our planet now that our societies globally are all tied together, whether we like it or not.
George Soros, one of the richest men in the world, is a big contributor to the global warming propaganda and if you look deep enough it's evident he stands to profit greatly if the right legislation comes to pass.
Remember that everybody is selling something but there are some that would lie, cheat, steal or even kill to make a sale.
Besides, I haven't noticed the water level coming up at our beaches. Until it does I'm a non-believer.
George Soros, one of the richest men in the world, is a big contributor to the global warming propaganda and if you look deep enough it's evident he stands to profit greatly if the right legislation comes to pass.
Remember that everybody is selling something but there are some that would lie, cheat, steal or even kill to make a sale.
Besides, I haven't noticed the water level coming up at our beaches. Until it does I'm a non-believer.
nealtw
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It's not like you are going to see 1/8" a year at the beach. Higher storm surge will be the problem.
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Never having heard of this I put in a library loan request. This Russell dude was no dummy.
No he was not. Let me know what you think.
Global Warming = Money / Power Grab
The majority of the "evidence" proponents of this have is based on computer models and everyone knows computers can be setup to spit out whatever results you want... especially since it's the liberal left that pays for the so called research.
And, just like mankind trying to stop earth quakes, hurricanes, and tornadoes... if global warming were a fact, mankind lacks the power and ability to do anything about it.
Since we did not create planet earth, it is not within our ability to change nature... although, I hear congress is going to pass a bill that forbids the earth to warm right after they outlaw cancer
The majority of the "evidence" proponents of this have is based on computer models and everyone knows computers can be setup to spit out whatever results you want... especially since it's the liberal left that pays for the so called research.
And, just like mankind trying to stop earth quakes, hurricanes, and tornadoes... if global warming were a fact, mankind lacks the power and ability to do anything about it.
Since we did not create planet earth, it is not within our ability to change nature... although, I hear congress is going to pass a bill that forbids the earth to warm
right after they outlaw cancer
nealtw
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It really is just something to talk about. There is to much money on both sides and people won't change anything anyway. I live in an earthquake zone and I don't plan on moving anytime soon.
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I think global warming is a natural occurrence, like the ice ages, that have their own cycles measured in millions of years. But the problem is, back then the biggest natural disaster did not exist –humans (their wanton disregard of natural resources fed by greed).
For me, the issue now is not if there is indeed global warming but how we can stop ourselves from destroying ourselves eventually by exacerbating devastating yet natural occurrences.
For me, the issue now is not if there is indeed global warming but how we can stop ourselves from destroying ourselves eventually by exacerbating devastating yet natural occurrences.
Watch out!!
The Washington Post
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen , Norway
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.
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I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 91 years ago.
The Washington Post
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen , Norway
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.
Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.
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I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 91 years ago.
nealtw
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To be fair, if you assume some scientist will be right or wrong or truthfull or full of lies, you have to apply the same rules to both sides. I would like someone to prove that co2 wasn't the cause, then we could get rid of the carbin tax we pay on our gas up here.
Obamas Green Agenda is Political Hot Air
Posted by Tony Elliott in Economics, Environment, Global Warming, Politics, Propaganda
Its interesting how comfortable President Obama is at lying as he was giving his speech on climate change recently. Since any President must be privy to all information concerning the world and the US in particular, Obama knows without a doubt that climate change is a bogus issue.
With that in mind, his claims of the last 15 years being the warmest on record, the dangers of rising CO2 levels, and the need to curb them proves to be nothing more than political theatrics designed to take the public's mind off the many scandals facing his Administration.
Lets have a look at the lies themselves.
I refer you to my article "More Lies About Greenhouse Gasses" which proves CO2 levels to be exaggerated and disproves CO2 as being a gas responsible for warming periods on our planet.
The total current CO2 levels in the entire atmosphere of earth are less than 1% of 1%. This is a scientific fact which cannot be disputed, thus making CO2 almost an inert gas in the overall composition of the atmosphere.
The claim of the last 15 years as being the warmest on record is a blatant lie.
Actual meteorological records, not manipulated data as the IPCC, WMO, and UN-based climate departments show temperatures to be the warmest on record during the last half of the 1930s and into the 1940s. This is a scientific fact which cannot be disputed.
The hottest year on record was 1934, not any year since then, including any in the last 15 years.Global Cooling_Time_1977
Basically, what we have here is the President giving us dire consequences in the need to fight an enemy that doesn't exist, namely CO2.
We as Americans shouldn't allow President Obama to further degrade our already lousy economy by burdening businesses with higher costs and fines associated with their use of coal in the name of a false threat.
The threat of higher CO2 levels isn't taken seriously by the President or the UN. The proof is the fact that all automobiles and trucks being manufactured in the US and abroad still are required to have catalytic converter that are basically CO2 producers.
Catalytic converters take pollutants such as carbon monoxide and oxidize it into carbon dioxide CO2. If they were really serious about rising CO2 levels, years ago they would have replaced catalytic converters with a filtering system which wouldn't manufacture CO2. Since this hasn't been done, it proves the CO2 threat to be a lie and nothing more than an avenue to bestow more Socialism here in America in the form of directing how we live our daily lives from the time we get up until we go to bed. All for a threat that doesn't exist.
Posted by Tony Elliott in Economics, Environment, Global Warming, Politics, Propaganda
Its interesting how comfortable President Obama is at lying as he was giving his speech on climate change recently. Since any President must be privy to all information concerning the world and the US in particular, Obama knows without a doubt that climate change is a bogus issue.
With that in mind, his claims of the last 15 years being the warmest on record, the dangers of rising CO2 levels, and the need to curb them proves to be nothing more than political theatrics designed to take the public's mind off the many scandals facing his Administration.
Lets have a look at the lies themselves.
I refer you to my article "More Lies About Greenhouse Gasses" which proves CO2 levels to be exaggerated and disproves CO2 as being a gas responsible for warming periods on our planet.
The total current CO2 levels in the entire atmosphere of earth are less than 1% of 1%. This is a scientific fact which cannot be disputed, thus making CO2 almost an inert gas in the overall composition of the atmosphere.
The claim of the last 15 years as being the warmest on record is a blatant lie.
Actual meteorological records, not manipulated data as the IPCC, WMO, and UN-based climate departments show temperatures to be the warmest on record during the last half of the 1930s and into the 1940s. This is a scientific fact which cannot be disputed.
The hottest year on record was 1934, not any year since then, including any in the last 15 years.Global Cooling_Time_1977
Basically, what we have here is the President giving us dire consequences in the need to fight an enemy that doesn't exist, namely CO2.
We as Americans shouldn't allow President Obama to further degrade our already lousy economy by burdening businesses with higher costs and fines associated with their use of coal in the name of a false threat.
The threat of higher CO2 levels isn't taken seriously by the President or the UN. The proof is the fact that all automobiles and trucks being manufactured in the US and abroad still are required to have catalytic converter that are basically CO2 producers.
Catalytic converters take pollutants such as carbon monoxide and oxidize it into carbon dioxide CO2. If they were really serious about rising CO2 levels, years ago they would have replaced catalytic converters with a filtering system which wouldn't manufacture CO2. Since this hasn't been done, it proves the CO2 threat to be a lie and nothing more than an avenue to bestow more Socialism here in America in the form of directing how we live our daily lives from the time we get up until we go to bed. All for a threat that doesn't exist.
oldognewtrick
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Somehow the old story of "The Emperor Has No Clothes" is never mentioned by the social leaning press...amazing how much we have changed in such a short period of time.
nealtw
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I just read that the 16 biggest ships create more crap in the air than all the cars in the world, funny how few are talking about that.
