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Old 08-12-2017, 12:16 PM  
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We are wanting to remove some of our kitchen wall to create a more open feel with some bar stool seating and storage cabinets. Pretty sure it's load bearing and have a friend coming by to verify. It will only be about 5 ft of wall removal so my question is this- do I or should I absolutely need to get an engineer involved? It would not be flush installation but drop down the same as the entry way, trying to keep it simple but structurally sound. It would be from the left edge of the range to the opening of entryway. That is a mirror on the wall, not a pass thru opening��


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If your CJ splice over this wall and/or if there are any roof braces that land on this wall, it's a bearing wall.

From the left side of the range to a framed structural post, between the new opening and the existing.


You should be able to permit this without having to have an eng. involved and the support for the ceilings is quite routine and simple.

How are you going to address the venting of the range?


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We inherited the house this way and plan on a hood when we remodel the kitchen, too many fish to fry with this 1950's house.
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CJ splice? Center Joint?��
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The CJ may or may not be continuous over the wall. If they are continuous, depending upon their dimension, they may be within span standards. as I recall from previous threds, they are 2X6, which have an allowable span of 15'6". If their length to the next bearing point exceeds that, you'll need the 4X6 DF header.

If they are not continuous and splice over this wall, you'll need the same header.

You'll likely find that there is not a stud at the exact point to the left of the range you desire, requiring you to open the wall to the next stud in order to install the trimmer under the header.

Here on the truly left coast you are required to vent gas fired cooking appliances.
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I'm not hip to the talk...does CJ=center joint and what is DF??
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I'm aware of the venting of gas appliances..it will be tackled when the remodel happens.
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I'm not hip to the talk...does CJ=center joint and what is DF??
CJ is an abbreviation for Ceiling Joists, and DF is for Douglas Fir, the lumber the house is assembled from.

They may take exception to the "eventually" part of the remodel where the venting is concerned.
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Before you stumble upon it, have you considered the kitchen cabinets that will be lost?
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Yes, actually the 2 above are empty currently and really not functional. My wife can't reach anything except the lower shelf on the one above the range which was spices and such. All that got moved to a rack in our pantry. The one to the right of it is useless! It has a basket on the open shelf which was packed with cooking oils and stuff. Most got moved to the pantry. We plan on a more user friendly and versatil cabinet setup with floor to ceiling unit left of range and better use of space in cabinets to the right of range. I'm hoping we can get a hood unit that won't look to funky mounted to the drop down beam section once we open it up?


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