DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum > DIY Home Improvement > Decks & Patios > Shovel VS post hole digger?




Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-15-2014, 08:08 AM  
bud16415
Fixer Upper
 
bud16415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Erie Pa, Pa
Posts: 1,620
Liked 504 Times on 389 Posts
Likes Given: 174

Default

Age and enthusiasm play a big part in how many holes a person is willing to do with a PHD. There was a time when I would have dug 15 fence posts by hand. Now one mailbox post is pushing the limits. I went out and got my PHD out of the shed the other day and one side of the scoop had rusted half off. Seems it was up against a bag of lime and ten years of sitting there did it in.

The mail box move will have to wait.



__________________
bud16415 is offline  
Fireguy5674 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-15-2014, 08:46 AM  
Fireguy5674
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Jacksonville, Illinois
Posts: 184
Liked 35 Times on 30 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

You know what they say: "Old and crafty will defeat young and strong every time." or the ever popular "Work smarter not harder."

It took me a long time to learn these truths.



__________________
Fireguy5674 is offline  
nealtw Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2014, 02:52 PM  
mako1
Junior Member
 
mako1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Central IL
Posts: 92
Liked 28 Times on 22 Posts

Default

To dig a post hole with a shovel to a depth of 4' you would have a huge diameter hole.

__________________
mako1 is offline  
nealtw Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2014, 06:37 PM  
nealtw
Contractor
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: vancouver, b.c.
Posts: 12,176
Liked 1182 Times on 1039 Posts
Likes Given: 1943

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mako1 View Post
To dig a post hole with a shovel to a depth of 4' you would have a huge diameter hole.
There is something called a spoon shovel. Years ago I saw two guys dig a hole 8 ft deep for a telephone pole.
__________________
nealtw is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2014, 07:38 PM  
bud16415
Fixer Upper
 
bud16415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Erie Pa, Pa
Posts: 1,620
Liked 504 Times on 389 Posts
Likes Given: 174

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nealtw View Post
There is something called a spoon shovel. Years ago I saw two guys dig a hole 8 ft deep for a telephone pole.
Grape farmers around here all have one for posts.


Sent from my iPhone using Home Repair
__________________
bud16415 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2015, 06:32 AM  
susan-j
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Just West Enough
Posts: 4
Default

My back aches from just reading this discussion! I attempted to go shovel-only years ago, with disastrous results. I go power auger all the way now. Not only is it faster, the results are much cleaner as well.

__________________
susan-j is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2015, 09:13 AM  
frodo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 775
Liked 217 Times on 176 Posts
Likes Given: 106

Default

I use my PHD to plant veggie plants, how do you pour your concrete in each hole?

I figure 1 bag per hole, fill hole with water, pour concrete in hole, jewg it with a stick,

cover with dirt, go to the next hole

__________________

Last edited by frodo; 02-03-2015 at 09:20 AM.
frodo is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2015, 10:23 AM  
Sparky617
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 39
Liked 13 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

I'd rent a Dingo with an auger attachment. Around here it is rocky clay a very tough thing to dig through.

http://www.toro.com/en-us/profession...s/default.aspx

Well worth the rental cost for a day.

__________________
Sparky617 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2015, 10:27 AM  
Big Red
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 48
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts

Default

I like using a spade for this. Once you get down so far, you can sit down and chip away a couple inches of dirt at a time and use your hands, and a post-hole digger to remove the dirt. It seems like a hard job, but it's really easy digging when you can sit down!! I dug numerous holes this way down to 40" inches deep--even underneath an existing deck that was poorly constructed in order to get more supporting posts under it. A spade is my favorite digging shovel.

__________________
Big Red is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2015, 07:09 AM  
mmb617
Junior Member
 
mmb617's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Altoona, PA
Posts: 6
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Digging post holes is on my list of not favorite things to do, but over the years I've dug a fair number of them. The proper tool depends largely on the type of soil you're digging in. Our ground is full of rocks, some fairly large. I've always used a post hole digger and a digging bar for when I encounter a rock. Ever notice how the big rocks are usually pretty far down in the hole? In those cases the hole gets a good bit oversized but I don't know how you'd avoid that happening.

As I'm getting on in years I thought it was time to rent a gas powered auger the last time I had some holes to dig. It didn't work out at all because it kept hitting rocks which would throw it off course and move the hole out of line. A Bobcat with auger attachment does work, but that's way overkill for a few post holes.

The best way of all I found to dig post holes is to lay out where I want them, then hire a much younger man to do them. I have the equipment, they supply the muscle. This works so well it's my go-to method from now on.



__________________
mmb617 is offline  
slownsteady Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter DIY Home Repair Forum Replies Last Post
Hole near house Alcyone Electrical and Wiring 4 08-29-2012 07:07 PM
Hole in Oak Flooring bobtheblindguy Flooring 4 06-17-2011 09:18 PM
Hole in the outside unit Ritzon HVAC 4 01-31-2010 11:42 PM
Post hole diggers Gateway Student Tools 2 04-01-2008 01:51 PM
Post Hole Diggers Square Eye General Home Improvement Discussion 3 07-10-2007 10:24 AM

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS