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Old 12-01-2011, 05:45 PM  
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I am remodeling a bathroom. I left the toilet drain line in place. I'm getting ready to lay durock and tile, so I was measuring the distance between the wall and center drain line to make sure I could use the Kohler Persuade toilet I had planned on using. Unfortunately, I'm just now realizing that I only have 11". The Kohler Persuade calls for 12", with only 1/2" between the tank and wall. I have no experience with offset flanges, but is this something relatively simple to pop in place of the existing the flange? I know other 12" toilets are a little more forgiving, so I can just go with a different toilet if the offset flange is an issue.



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It all depends on the connection between the existing flange and the soil pipe, and the vertical dimension of the offset flange you use. If the current flange is tightly-glued, you'll need to remove a bit more of the soil pipe and then add a short run and coupling to bring things up to the new flange's bottom. Hopefully you have easy access (as in a basement, or deep crawl space).

I installed a special-order Kohler Wellworth a few years ago, with the 10" flange-to-wall distance. Turns out I could have used the standard 12", as the Wellworth's tank is about 2-1/4" from the wall. The thing plugs up every now and then, unlike the American Standard Champion 4 we installed at the same time in the upstairs bathroom--that thing doesn't know what a plunger is!



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Ahh the Kohler Persuade....

Looks neat but a nightmare to install and service...

I'd return it and get a Toto Eco-Drake with Sanagloss CST744EG you'll get a much better toilet...

The 12" rough Eco-Drake will fit a rough in as low as 10 7/8"

Don't pay attention to the MSRP on the website you will easily find it selling for less...

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I ended up installing an American Standard Clean Cadet 3, which has a similar look to the Persuade, but leaves room for a shut off valve behind it. It's not a Toto, but for the price range I was looking at, it had the look I wanted and the 1.28 tank. It installed on the 11" rough in with room to spare. I did find a place nearby that had an Eco-Drake bowl, but they didn't have the 1.28 tank in stock. It was $280 with a 1.6 tank, I believe; considerably less than the MSRP for sure.

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Oh the dreaded 1.28 gal. flush.

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I am remodeling a bathroom. I left the toilet drain line in place. I'm getting ready to lay durock and tile, so I was measuring the distance between the wall and center drain line to make sure I could use the Kohler Persuade toilet I had planned on using. Unfortunately, I'm just now realizing that I only have 11". The Kohler Persuade calls for 12", with only 1/2" between the tank and wall. I have no experience with offset flanges, but is this something relatively simple to pop in place of the existing the flange? I know other 12" toilets are a little more forgiving, so I can just go with a different toilet if the offset flange is an issue.
Are you using durock for wall or floor?...
Not on the subject but fig I ask lol


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