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Old 02-29-2012, 11:15 AM  
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Default Renewable meet worldwide needs of energy?

Realistically speaking who in this site, thinks renewable energy sources such as solar, wind, tidal etc will be able at some point in age meet our worldwide needs, this is of course excluding transport( I can see a plane flying without petroleum.....)?


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It will never happen as long as Big Oil has the money to put into policiticians & corporate pockets.


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Kerosene was invented to replace whale oil because of a shortage of whales. Prices of the new oil products fell as new refineries were built. Internal combustion engines were built to run on gasoline because it was a waiste product at the time. Diesel invented his engine to run on biofuel. Turbofan engines in aircrafts can be made to run on that same biofuel.
I have no doubt we will see new fuels to run everything but not before some have squeezed every penny out of the stuff.
Water is the one thing we should be worried about.
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personally speaking, we''ll never know. Although green energy is popular today. It's popularity is fluctuating and not all are totally supportive and accepting it since it's not that 100% viable. Kok328 is right, as long as the oil company owner is the richest people in the world, renewable energy will take over will always be put into halt.
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At some point, petroleum products will just become too expensive. That's when renewable fuels will get their chance.

Did anyone hear about a company in Texas thats using dried up oil wells to produce geothermal heat? That's an interesting development.
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I wonder how much opinions have changed in the last few years? We can see now that renewables have increased in demand and popularity, with recent news in the UK and France about having an eventual outright ban on petrol and diesel vehicles.

I've always thought it very interesting to assess from a geopolitical standpoint. Remove your country's dependency on oil-rich countries, and say goodbye to the economic power of the latter. Bye-bye Russia, bye-bye Saudi Arabia. All countries should be investing heavily in renewables given the general trend of the world...
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Good point. This thread is old, but the discussion is ongoing....as well as development. But the power structure (political power) is still intact and that will be the deciding factor. When big money finds a way to profit well from green energy, then things will change.
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We make it sound like big money and profit are dirty words.

Anyone that wants to build solar panels and wind mills and sell them at a loss is allowed to do that. The fix was to make old power more expensive with carbon tax and then supplement clean energy to make it cost less. That in turn is rolled to the consumer in two different directions because after all the consumer is the one paying all the cost plus overhead in the long run thru buying the product or paying the taxes. That is a false economy and taking that money out of people’s pockets cause them to buy less in the true economy and that begins the downward spiral.

The same companies are working on alternative energy that are involved with old energy. They are going to profit anyway you look at it, oh no more big money.
The last little guy with “little money” was some guy built a car in 1950 and it was in popular science magazine that ran on water and the oil companies gave him something like $100,000,000 to shut up. Once we are out of oil they will just pull that out and we will be good. Only problem is the little guy caved in and sold the idea. It doesn’t matter if he kept the idea he would of quickly became big money anyway.
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Stanley was selling cars running on water long before that.

Tell yourself what ever you want, Countries that see the future are moving ahead. The USA never got to greatness by following the pack
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The car running on water story is a myth. To make a car run on "water" you have to find an economic way to separate the Hydrogen from the Oxygen. Hence hydrogen cars all extract their hydrogen from methane or natural gas these days. Hydrogen as a power source is more like a battery than a straight fuel source since it is not freely available.

I'm not sure how you run on renewable energy in the upper Northern and lower Southern Hemispheres in their respective winters when daylight hours are extremely short or non-existent. Even in lower latitudes places in the midwest are pretty gray and cloudy all winter long. Hydro power is extremely hard to get permitted in the USA now.

I'm all in favor of making lighting, appliances, HVAC more energy efficient. LED lights will completely replace incandescent and compact fluorescent lighting in a few years. Even long tube fluorescent lighting has a LED replacement now that is more efficient. AC is probably my single largest energy use in my household. Living without it in North Carolina is highly unlikely. About as unlikely as living without heat in Ontario or Buffalo. If they can figure out how to wring more efficiency out of each kilowatt that is a good thing. When my current 18-year-old system does die, I will replace it with a much higher SEER unit.

Improving efficiency will reduce the load on the grid and enable us to delay building new plants and can take older, less efficient plants off line. Moving towards Plugin Electric Hybrids will put more demand on the grid so at least some of that efficiency will be eaten up by transportation.


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