DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum > DIY Home Improvement > Framing and Foundation > Opening a wall




Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-18-2008, 09:44 AM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default Opening a wall

My wife asked me to open a wall that separates our kitchen from our living room, this also includes an opening to the stairwell.The opening is 11.5 ft long. This wall is perpendicular to the roof supports above.
Directly below there is a metal I beam that runs the length of the house. On one side of the wall the beam sits on the block wall and two feet beyond the other side the beam is supported by a steel post.

i plan on using a veneer beam to replace the studs is 2x12 my only option?

Also is there anything i need to do below?



__________________
1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 09:45 AM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default

photos of the post




__________________
1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 09:54 AM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default

here are photo's from the other side



i would also like to remove the structure above the stairs

__________________
1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 11:51 AM  
glennjanie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,990
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Send a message via AIM to glennjanie
Default

Hello GTA:
No, 2 X 12s are not the only way to go. You could also use a glue-laminated beam, whether bought or made on site.
Be sure to install temporary bearing near the wall to keep the roof from collapsing when you take the wall out.
Glenn

__________________
glennjanie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 11:59 AM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default

glen thanks for the response.

for the laminated beam would the dimensions be the same as using two 2x12's nailed together. I'm looking for something that would give me the most over head room.

nick

__________________

Last edited by 1989gta; 12-18-2008 at 12:41 PM. Reason: .
1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 08:01 PM  
glennjanie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,990
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Send a message via AIM to glennjanie
Default

Hello Nick:
Yes, the height of the beam could be made the same as 2 X 12s. Use 2 X 4s to make the beam and it will be the same thickness as a stud.
Glenn

__________________
glennjanie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 10:28 PM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default

i'm less concerned about the product and more concerned with the amount of headroom i'm sacrificing is there something that would allow me 10 or even 8 inches of space from the ceiling? I plan on removing the top plate to save myself 1.5 inches sinking the beam slightly into the ceiling.

__________________

nick

1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2008, 11:08 PM  
East_Texas
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tyler, Texas
Posts: 12
Default

How about an 8" steel I-beam. Probably take en engineer to do the calculations, but may work. There are even 6" tall ones available.

__________________
East_Texas is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-19-2008, 10:36 AM  
1989gta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 24
Default

after discussing our options with the wife were going to go with a laminated beam and wrap it in Brazilian cherry to match the wood floor border.

__________________

nick

1989gta is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-21-2008, 03:53 PM  
triple D
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 296
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default before you go shopping....

You might want to cut the drywall back about a foot from the wall on the kitchen ceiling. That way you can get an idea on whats up there. You may be able to stuff the beam up to the floor sheeting above, then use some simpson hangers on joists. It looks about a 10' or better span. Better go big on beam, its also supporting stair risers. Maybe a laminated 4x10, 0r 12. Better consult a pro, you dont want any setbacks on this job. Good luck...



__________________

[COLOR="DarkGreen"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]See my work-Check out my album. "Git 'Er Done":D [/FONT][/COLOR]

triple D is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter DIY Home Repair Forum Replies Last Post
opening a wall 1989gta Framing and Foundation 0 12-17-2008 10:24 PM
Opening wall, don't think it's load bearing? CZSteve Walls and Ceilings 8 01-15-2008 01:45 AM
Cutting An Opening In An Exterior Wall dbone Framing and Foundation 1 11-03-2007 12:34 PM
opening a shear wall tgd61 Framing and Foundation 4 07-25-2006 11:45 PM
make opening in load bearing wall? Carey7 Flooring 2 06-27-2006 01:09 PM

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS