DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum > DIY Home Improvement > Cleaning > I hate using chemicals




Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-11-2009, 02:26 AM  
Superpack
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 98
Default I hate using chemicals

Does anyone know of any cleaning products they can recommend that are environmentally safe. I hate using chemicals with strong smells especially around the kids.

Regards,



__________________
Superpack is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-12-2009, 10:51 PM  
ahmed ragab
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 11
Send a message via MSN to ahmed ragab Send a message via Yahoo to ahmed ragab Send a message via Skype™ to ahmed ragab
Default

Material because it was scary



__________________
ahmed ragab is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-25-2009, 12:36 PM  
stevensonjames88
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 14
Default

What specifically do you want to clean? For refrigerators, tiles flooring, bathroom you could use a mixture of vinegar and water then soap and rinse with water. You could also try scrubbing a blemish area with baking soda. Would think of more and would post it here.

__________________

[url=http://www.getmoldremovaltips.com][b]Mold Removal Tips[/b][/url]

stevensonjames88 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-27-2009, 08:27 PM  
DUNBAR
Master Plumber
 
DUNBAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern Kentucky/Greater Cincinnati Area, Kentucky
Posts: 23
Default

I'm curious to know what the long term effects are of those who are around these chemicals over a period of time.


There is indeed other professions that are subjected to the "bad" stuff, but honestly the truth about cleaning agents is for example, house cleaners aka merry maids.

Constant inhalation of these chemicals. Overspray, contact on the hands, arms, face, respiratory system.


Has anyone even cared in this profession to find out if these things cause harm?



Northern Kentucky Plumbers

__________________

Last edited by DUNBAR; 12-28-2009 at 12:52 AM.
DUNBAR is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-29-2009, 11:25 PM  
Nestor_Kelebay
Emperor Penguin
 
Nestor_Kelebay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 1,844
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Dunbar:

I probably do more cleaning than most people in here. I suppose there might be some health effects associated with frequent contact with cleaning chemicals, but I think it's like so many other things we come into contact with... if our body doesn't know what to do with a chemical, it just lets it slide on by to get pooped out the anus. And, that's true for most substances. If you swallow tomato seeds or mushrooms, (or even a button) which don't get digested in our stomachs, you end up finding them in the toilet bowl.

So, unless a chemical is known to do harm, my feeling is that most of them don't do anything to us, but help fill the toilet bowl.

Where you wanna be a lot more careful is when you're handling chemicals that were meant to do harm, such as spraying insecticides and herbicides. Those are chemicals that were made to interfere with the metabolism of plants and bugs (sometimes animals). In that case, then you definitely don't want to inhale the product's vapours or have it in contact with your skin.

The difference between a "soap" and a "detergent" is that soaps are semi-natural products formed by the combination of a plant oil or animal fat with a strong alkali. Soaps aren't produced by any natural process, but they are made by a chemical reaction between two completely natural chemicals, which makes them semi-natural in my books. Detergents tend to be chemically similar to soaps in that they have a long hydrocarbon chain with an active group at one end of that chain. Soaps have been used since Roman times with no noticable health effects, and the strong chemical similarity between soaps and detergents would suggest that detergents are probably pretty benign too.

You can learn a lot about soaps, detergents and the science behind cleaning at the Soap & Detergent Manufacturer's Association website at:
The Soap And Detergent Association

For example: Did you know that the reason you never get any soap scum in your kitchen sink is because you don't use bar soap in your kitchen sink. You use dish washing detergent in your kitchen sink. You use soap in your bathtub and bathroom sink, and soap scum will form in both the bathroom's tub and sink as a result of dissolved soap losing it's solubility in water because of a reaction with the hardness ions in the water. Modern detergents, like dish washing detergents, can be formulated so that their solubility in water isn't compromised by hardness ions in the water, and so they never lose their solubility in water. The result is that even though you can get soap scum rings in both your bathtub and bathroom sinks, your kitchen sink will remain soap scum free.

And, this is just my own hypothesis, but the mildew that grows on bathroom walls (and especially bathroom grout lines) is like every other living thing in that it has to eat something to survive. It strikes me that soap is made from animal fats and/or plant oils, and both of those are high calorie foods. It would seem to make sense that the source of food for bathroom mildew is the natural plant oils in the bar soap used in the bathroom. And, that would suggest that by using a synthetic detergent in the bathroom instead of bar soaps, people could possibly eliminate the mildew from their bathrooms by starving the mildew to death. I'd certainly be interested in knowing the results if someone wanted to try using only artificial detergents exclusively in their bathroom instead of bar soap to see if it eliminated the mildew.

PS:
Also, our word "soap" almost certainly comes from the name of Mount Sopa near Rome. In Roman times, Mount Sopa was the place where common people would make a plea to one of their Gods. The process involved pleading for the God's personal intervention in your affairs whilst you burned the body of a small animal as a tribute and offering to that God.
Roman women noticed that washing their clothes in the streams that flowed off of Mount Sopa after a rain would get them cleaner than washing in those same streams at other times or in other streams. Obviously, the Romans didn't understand why that might be, but we currently suspect that the fat dripping off the sacrificial animals would mix with the alkaline ashes of the fires to form a crude form of soap. The rains would then carry that soap into the streams where it would help in cleaning the clothes.
Roman historians record that Romans made soap for use in the Roman bath houses, but how it was used isn't known. It may have been used for cleaning the same way we use soap today, or it may have been used like a skin balm or ointment, or it may have been used purely to make the water bubbly. There is no direct evidence that soap was intentionally made for cleaning purposes during Roman times.

__________________

Last edited by Nestor_Kelebay; 12-30-2009 at 12:04 AM.
Nestor_Kelebay is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-31-2009, 09:08 AM  
granite-girl
Senior Member
 
granite-girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 204
Default

I know a guy who just died of lung cancer. Never smoked a day in his life, real healthy body builder type. But he owned & ran a cleaning business, like carpet cleaning, upholstery, major stain removal stuff. They say it was from all the chemicals he was around. Serious stuff !
There are all kinds of organic, natural cleaners out there, just google it or go toyour local Target, there'e even a company like Amway or something that you can order it from, but I don't remember it's name. It's all natural more healthy living products.

__________________

[URL="http://www.supremesurfacecleaner.com/"]http://www.supremesurfacecleaner.com/[/URL]

[URL="http://bathroom.remodelingindianapolis.com/"]http://bathroom.remodelingindianapolis.com/[/URL]

granite-girl is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-31-2009, 10:18 AM  
Nestor_Kelebay
Emperor Penguin
 
Nestor_Kelebay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 1,844
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by granite-girl View Post
They say it was from all the chemicals he was around.
The problem is that 99% of the time, the people doing the "saying" don't really know anything about the subject they're talking about. For every janitor that dies before the age of 90, there's someone saying it's because of all the chemicals they were exposed to in their job. And, most of the time the people saying that are housewives, bank tellers, insurance salesmen, factory workers, and the like who haven't got any better a clue than you or me what really caused his death, and how much effect his exposure to chemicals had.

I know a guy who smoked all his adult life and never got lung cancer.

If problems were as simple to diagnose as pointing a finger at the most obvious cause, then figuring out how to live safely on this good Earth would be much simpler than it seems to be. Even to this day, most people will tell you to "Put on a coat or you'll catch a cold because it's cold outside". It's only within the last generation or two that's we've come to understand that colds are caused by viruses, not exposure to cold weather, and that fact still hasn't sunk in with most people. Otherwise, everyone that went down on Flight 1259 that ditched in the Hudson River woulda got a cold, right?
__________________
Nestor_Kelebay is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-31-2009, 10:41 AM  
granite-girl
Senior Member
 
granite-girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 204
Default

I think the "they" were Dr.'s but who knows.
I know what you mean about coats & cold weather, my in-laws are notorious about that, drives me nuts!

__________________

[URL="http://www.supremesurfacecleaner.com/"]http://www.supremesurfacecleaner.com/[/URL]

[URL="http://bathroom.remodelingindianapolis.com/"]http://bathroom.remodelingindianapolis.com/[/URL]

granite-girl is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2010, 06:36 AM  
stevensonjames88
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 14
Default

Great info you got there Nelson!

__________________

[url=http://www.getmoldremovaltips.com][b]Mold Removal Tips[/b][/url]

stevensonjames88 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2010, 05:28 PM  
Nestor_Kelebay
Emperor Penguin
 
Nestor_Kelebay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 1,844
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Thanks, Stuart.



__________________
Nestor_Kelebay is offline  
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter DIY Home Repair Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone else hate the planned communities? skeeter General Chit-Chat 4 05-31-2008 03:23 AM
I hate LAZY PEOPLE! lulobster Flooring 4 05-15-2008 10:44 AM
What do you hate most about your utility knife? chris1010 Tools 13 01-13-2008 09:35 PM
Hate My Bathroom Floors!! cami7 Flooring 4 10-06-2005 05:50 PM

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS