No corona virus thread???

I don't remember Cronkite ever spinning things.

That's because he did it in a calm voice with his hair neatly combed. And there weren't a million commentators on other networks/talk radio/the internet pointing out how he was spinning things.

Walter Cronkite used his time in college to act in plays, then he dropped out and became a journalist. Whatever he had to say about important issues of his day should be considered with that in mind.

I believe all " News Casters" are not journalist but merely spokespeople putting out the narrative of the source you're watching or listening to. It's hard to get real "truths or facts", seems there's always an agenda. News sources relish in the position of spinning events to fit their platform. Fair and balanced is a pipe dream it seems.

I mean, think about it. Let's say you were tasked with writing a news report with zero bias. How would you do it? It isn't possible.

And the more ways you take bias out of your report (you'll never get to zero but you can get it down pretty low), the less it will look like a news report and instead start to look like a table of numbers or something, and that is not going to sell any ads.

Journalism requires somone to at least investigate a situation, not just report the bias of the reporter. There are two sides to an issue. Propagating one side does not make a story, just an narrative.

UK regulators have issued a warning that people who have a history of "significant" allergic reactions should not currently receive the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine after two NHS staff members who had the jab suffered allergic reactions.
The workers were given the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine on Tuesday - the first day of the NHS mass vaccination programme - and then suffered an allergic reaction.
The NHS in England said all trusts involved with the vaccination programme had been informed.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has given precautionary advice to NHS trusts that anyone who has a history of "significant" allergic reactions to medicines, food or vaccines should not receive the vaccine.

oldognewtrick said:

Journalism requires somone to at least investigate a situation, not just report the bias of the reporter. There are two sides to an issue. Propagating one side does not make a story, just an narrative.

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I want to expand on this but I remember Bud did ask us to stick to the topic of Covid 19 and I don't want to be a pain in his neck (more than I probably already have been!), so I'm going to copy the quote and reply over on my "About the news" thread.

I don't like it when people start talking about the fact that this virus is not as scary as the flu, etc. God, just study the issue scientifically, and not just read some incomplete facts.

There are starting to be verified reports about adverse reactions to the vaccine.

I read about the reactions people have had and most seem minimal, similar to other vaccinations. Headache was a common one, some cases of nausea, sore arms, fatigue was mentioned, sort of a foggy feeling sometimes. All those were gone is a day or two. The only real issue I have read were a few severe allergic reactions. I'm more concerned about long term which we of course won't know for a while. None the less when I can get it I will.

Several people have ended up in the ICU after the shot. Besides, the FDA has a spotty record when it comes to approvals. Too many like thalidomide, vioxx and zantac that seemed to be safe short term, but were deadly after use.
I am not an anti-vaxxer. I get a flu shot yearly although they are only somewhat successful and I have had a pneumonia shot.

The one thing that makes me a little bit nervous is this was developed and approved side stepping many of the normal steps or time frames. That can't help an agency do any better at evaluating a drug. This is a new technology which could be good, could be bad. So we will see. As I said I'll be in line. Sick of not doing anything so if I can help get to herd immunity I'll chip in.

I'll never get egg or insect based vaccines again or take drugs due to complications. That reasoning was established well before Covid. Enter in the fact that the "leaders" aren't getting the actual vaccine.

Is it a common side effect to have pain in the right arm when the vaccine is received in the left arm?

Or is that just a side effect from a B-12 shot?

Which is it, Fake Fraud Fauci?

There are always adverse reactions to any vaccine. The question is how serious and how common the reactions are.

I have gone back to the beginning of this thread and read through the posts. So I decided to share my own experience.

First, I am 58, retired from banking and live in KY. I have never had any health issues. I eat well and I am fit and active since I live on a farm and do all my home repairs I have been wearing a mask and staying home unless necessary. I also don’t do business anywhere they don’t enforce the mask policy....I just go elsewhere. My sister had to go to an in person doctor appointment in early Nov. While there, during a conversation her doctor told her that “people lie all the time“ during the screening before being admitted into the office. They have been sick, around sick people, exposed etc. Two days after the appointment my sister was sick. The next day I was sick. A day later I was so sick I couldn’t even take care of myself. Both of us were too sick to function. And I’m a farm girl so That says a lot. I managed to feed and water my cats and dogs and give my cat insulin. But there were times I considered crawling to the bathroom.

For the first two weeks I had a fever around 102 to 103. Everyday for two weeks. Terrible diarrhea if I ate or drank anything. Exhaustion, hallucinations, nausea and coughing. After two weeks, my sister who was still very sick called an ambulance for me. I had a fever of 102.9 and couldn’t stay awake or speak coherently. I was in ICU that day and a regular covid ward for 6 more days. I thank GOD I was in the hospital. I also got pneumonia and couldn’t kick the diarrhea. But with three doses of Remdesevir, steroids twice a day, antibiotics, fluids, several shots each day of heparin and everything else the nurses brought me back. I know I was dying. No one told me that.....but I know it.( The nurses even came in and prayed over/with me.) I lost 20 pounds in three weeks. I could barely walk during the days following my stay.

My sister and I are both recovered now and I am thankful. Also thankful I have health insurance. Since my hospital bill was over $30,000. Glad I’m paying only a portion!

Everyone deserves their own opinion. I have Never had a reaction to a vaccine ...so I will get the vaccine when it is available to me. Probably around the time my immunity wears off. I know there is always a risk. I will continue to only do business where the mask policy is enforced. And I will respect others by keeping my distance and wearing a mask. That is my story.

Trailrider, that sounds awful but I'm glad you survived.

I am getting tested tomorrow (had to make an appointment). Got exposed at the tire shop while getting my new tires put on. Thus far it's mostly flu-like stuff. Headache, nausea, diarrhea, mild cough, stuffy/runny nose, body aches, and stomach just being sour. I've felt a lot sicker. I think a year or two ago I had the bad respiratory symptoms where I couldn't stop coughing and started hallucinating and was confused. I'm hoping to never get that sick again.

I'm now having new symptoms of being lightheaded off and on and arrhythmia (I have congenital heart defects so I've always had heart murmur and I get arrhythmia from time to time). It's more agitating than anything else. Just a few hours until I get tested.

zannej said:

I'm now having new symptoms of being lightheaded off and on and arrhythmia (I have congenital heart defects so I've always had heart murmur and I get arrhythmia from time to time). It's more agitating than anything else. Just a few hours until I get tested.

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Good Luck zannej, but I don't think you need a test. How much Vitamin C and D do you take? I would take a lot of C and lookup how much D and Zinc to take.

femgroup said:

You said: "Which is it, Fake Fraud Fauci? "

I say: Geez.

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He has exposed how much of a Fraud he is over this entire year. It's so obvious I shouldn't even have to type this. It's so obvious that it transcends politics. The media appointed him as King of the operation, and that went straight to his head. Unfortunately, there isn't to much activity up there.

Spicoli43 said:

It's so obvious I shouldn't even have to type this.

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So don't.