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Interesting that four days after my last shopping venture I felt a slight temperature rise. I checked my temp several time finding the rise to be only 1°F and lasted only one day. Maybe the omicron was after me but my vitamin-C sent it packing.

Most of the current omicron data is anecdotal and they don't even realize it.
 

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I baked bread and I'm finding that dipping it in olive oil is a bit messy. Artisan type bread is tough and crusty so I ended up with olive oil dripping down my chin. I am now tearing the bread into small chunks and using a tiny hors d'oeuvre fork to dip. I will get some minced garlic and maybe some fresh herbs to try. It's not bad with garlic salt and thyme though the flavors haven't infused much. One recipe for dipping oil said reduced chance of heart attack in just five weeks.

I may now have to worry about too much olive oil (and bread) instead of how to get 2 tbsp of oil down per day.
You should put a little balsamic vinegar in with the olive oil. old Italian way .
 

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"Around two-thirds of respondents to a global survey rated doctors as trustworthy, according to the Ipsos Global Trustworthiness Index 2021."

But there was the Tuskegee Experiment.

I don't know what to say about this.
I do know antibiotics saved me from taking a week to die in great agony at pain level 8.
And I cannot repair myself.
 

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Apparently you have survived this long not trusting docs & I have survived this long trusting docs.
One conclusion may be that trust doesn't matter, but that seems unlikely.
 

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I trust docs when I need them but with the careful use of supplements I seldom need them. Usually in any group I am the only one w/o even one prescription or a primary care doctor. But I use docs for surgery and would if I needed antibiotics beyond amoxicillin (fish mox).
And then there's Dr. Smith and the vitamin-C story.
 

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I'm surprised we're debating this with no one going Postal. Good for us.

With my kid it's not possible, it's either win/lose/draw or forfeit. All her tuition & child support down the drain. :(

With her, the intelligence axis is

"1.
of or involving right angles; at right angles.
2.
STATISTICS
(of variates) statistically independent."

from the dumb idea axis.
 
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We are doing well!
I've had some good discussions in a home fellowship group. It had two doctors and a nurse (one of the doc's wife and a whiz on both pharmaceuticals and supplements). They were quite interested in my results in healing a stasis wound using wet bed dressings during the day (standard of care) and drying it with a hair dryer for the overnight dressing (scabs are God's way).
Others can do what works for them (or not) but I definitely know my methods work (for me). My son is on statins, I don't try to get him to drop them. I just give him supplements to help with leg edema which may be due to the statins reducing heart function and CoQ10 levels.
 

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I heard a good spiel promoting bone broth on GMA3 of all places. The guest speaker was suggesting that it should be incorporated into any weight loss scheme and named its many nutrients. She said for something as simple and delicious as onion soup use bone broth instead of beef broth for the liquid.
 

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IIRC, leg edema can mean right side heart failure.
Many symptoms can be from one cause & vice versa.
Med stuff is harder than engineering design & HVAC design. More interface with these pesky humans! :D
 

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An engineer friend of mine told me a little story regarding his first need for a doctor. He picked one out of the Detroit phone book solely because he had a familiar name. The name was the same as that of a classmate who flunked out of engineering. When he showed up for his appointment it was the same guy. He said to the doc, "You were lousy at engineering how did you become a doctor?" The reply was, "You can become a doctor by memorization but that won't work for engineering." I find that to be true, most docs can't or won't think outside the box.

My wound care technique followed a logical path that the wound care specialists wouldn't try because it wasn't the standard of care they had been taught.
 
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"You can become a doctor by memorization but that won't work for engineering."
I hope he hasn't killed anyone yet.
Some doctors are finally getting on to Bayesian Reasoning & Evidence Based Medicine. The computer does the Bayes' calcs for them, if they are not too proud to use it.

Bayesian analysis in the diagnostic process
Abstract

A diagnosis is made by a process in which the physician gathers evidence. The physician uses this evidence to put the patient in a class of patients with a disease. Bayes' theorem quantifies the effects of the evidence in increasing the probability that the patient has the disease. This article will discuss the potential of Bayesian analysis for medical diagnosis. Applications of Bayesian analysis to the diagnostic process could improve the efficiency of this process."

Could? I don't see how it can fail.
 
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The problem I find with doctors is that they (unlike you) don't have time to play analysis games. Due to insurance requirements they have little face time with patients and computer time is limited to the necessary virtual paperwork. In the case of wound care I was far ahead of the doc as I had unlimited time to research available articles on the subject of the latest high tech dressings and their applicability. The real world is far different than what you imagine with the theories you like to read and talk about.
 

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Back to olive oil dipping. I have decided that I don't care so much for an herb loaded dip. I like for the taste of the bread to prevail so I am only adding a note of garlic salt to the oil.
 

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You should check out Fustini's. The sell olive oil and vinegar. They are a little expensive but they have a bunch of flavored (infused) oils and vinegars. We love the place. They have several locations in Michigan but you can order online too. If you can get to one you can sample all the different choices.
 
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