Best Whole House Heat Pump???

[Krich]

Do you think our friend somehow missed that this is a DIY forum‽

I'm starting to wonder...

 

[Eddie_T]

Thanks, but I don't do facebook or any social media.

I think there may be home building forums in general, but then again this is the reason I joined House Repair Talk.com

I would think installing HVAC in a new home would be similar to installing on in a barndominiums

Yeah, I agree with you on facebook. I was thinking maybe other builders could share how they overcame the smothering impact of codes, rules and regulations. A local mechanical contractor told me that if he heard that someone was getting multiple estimates he added a thousand or so to his estimate.

A "rule of thumb" comparison with a somewhat similar bardominium in your general area could prove beneficial.

I get by with a single point PTHP because I don't have anyone isolated behind closed doors. IOW no teenagers. My system might not work for the next occupant but I have no plans to sell.

 

[Krich]

In my county they require following some international building code (I don't remember the exact name) which I think it mostly best practices... but they do not come out and do inspections since I'm outside of the city limits.

The county does issue a building permit and they want to know about the septic system to make sure it is up to snuff, other than that there are no restrictions.

I'm not opposed to following best practices for a safe structure and will be documenting every part of the build with pictures and documents. Plus I'll have an inspector come look at the foundation, the structure itself, the wiring and the plumbing and keep his reports on file.

That way, whoever gets the property after me will have records of how everything was done and this will also be helpful if I ever sell the place.

 

[jjredmond71]

Do you think our friend somehow missed that this is a DIY forum‽

I am far from your friend, and being a DIY network has not a damn thing to do with following the law, no matter how stupid it may be. How moronic can one be to think that a homeowner should be excused from doing what is right.

In a forum like this it's the job of those who know the rules of the game to lead those who need the help down the right road, not egg them on in doing something that can hurt either their pocket book or their health. I can see from multiple posts in this thread from you that you either do not have that same view, or you just have no idea of what you are talking about. I think it might be a combination of both.

I noticed you refuse to defend your moronic statement about building code.

 

[jjredmond71]

You must be a liberal... I did not say mark up was greed.

I'm saying excessive mark up is greed. Please read ALL of what people say before jumping to conclusions, that way you aren't misquoting people if that matters to you at all.





No, I never doubted for a minute that you are the world's foremost authority on all things. I totally get it and understand with whom I'm dealing with!





Some of them actually are and are willing to let me buy the hardware and they charge for their time and expertise getting it all up and running.





No need to worry about me. I'll be having a licensed professional do the hookup so I can enjoy having the manufacturers warranty!

It was so nice you could take time out of your busy schedule to spend with us here today!

Any time you want to test my political ideology, I welcome you.

Your words: "I'm simply saying the mark up is pure greed!", and then you went on to make a claim about 4 and 5x mark up and you are wrong.

I already understand who holds the upper hand in terms of authority here , and it certainly isn't you. Remember, you are the one asking the questions here, not me. You just don't enjoy having your ignorant BS called out in public.

 

[Eddie_T]

Any system design no matter how much expertise is touted by a seller becomes a compromise in the real world. The ideal would be for a temperate zone where the heat and cooling requirements were equal however one would still experience short cycling for the in between seasons. In Texas the system would prolly have to be designed for max cooling which means more short cycling during the heating season. Current systems with variable speed compressors are more forgiving. Modern systems also provide heat at much lower outside temperatures but the sellers fail to mention parity which is the point where heat pumps cross into inefficiency due to time spent in defrost. In my area we just went through a mild winter thus more short cycling than usual but nothing to be alarmed about. A grossly overrated system would result in more short cycling but even systems designed by rule of thumb can work out rather well with variable speed compressors. IOW if I canvassed new installations for similar dwellings in my area and simply followed suit for BTU sizing I would be in the ball park.

 

[peter woods]

• Cooper & Hunter Sophia Series.
• Pioneer Diamante Ultra Series.
• Senville Aura Series.