Ceramic tile in the bathroom

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    Well, what was suppose to be an easy broken tile replacement hasn't turned out NOT so easy.

    I tried to remove just one tile but unfortunately the whole piece of drywall behind it came out with it, the problem is the behind the drywall there is a 2x4 but it is on the far end of where the tile would be attached, stupid me, I forgot to take a pic of it before I left. it is a 12x12 tile but I don't know how I should go about to fix the backing so I can replace this tile, seeing there is a 2x4 on the far edge of the tile, I can maybe attached drywall or plywood with screws on the one side but the one end would be left hanging. not sure how good of support it would be? the good thing is this tile is above the tub surround. so I don't think it would be getting much moisture, but I just want to get it replace and I would just silicone around it to make sure.

    I have a picture of the tile itself, hope that helps someone visualize it and give me some sort of advice.

    Thanks for your help in advance.

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    If you have any exposed drywall you could put a peice wood in the hole and screw it in place.
    If not perhaps holding a peice of 2x4 in place while someone screws thru the drywall in the next room.
     
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    Cut a piece of drywall large enough to span the INSIDE of the opening. Drill a couple of holes in the piece and loop a piece of wire in it so you can grip the drywall. Using construction adhesive, apply glue to the edges and slip the piece into the hole, pulling it back against the wall firmly. This becomes your new backer.

    After the glue has cured, cut another piece of drywall to fit the entire opening. Using a light coat of adhesive, glue it to the new backer. If you shoot a screw into the 2x4 it will pop the new piece -- don't do it.

    Now you can use thinset to replace the tile.

    Take credit for being smart! :D
     
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    Thanks for the advice, I do have about a 1/2" gap behind the current drywall and where the 2x4 is... instead of using a first piece of drywall, would using some sort of plywood be better? maybe cut a 18x18 piece and screw that onto the 2x4 first? but I guess that still wouldn't solve my problem seeing I don't have any support on the one side....

    I don't mind being a DIY'er but I seemed to have caused a larger problem than before now!!
     
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    I agree with Villa except I would use a scrap of plywood as my backer and glue it to the back side of the drywall with the hole in it. The quicker the glue sets the sooner you can finish the repair. I might use a 5 minute epoxy to glue the plywood to the drywall. If you make your backer out of plywood you should be able to use one or two drywall screws to hold your patch in place.
     
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    So once the plywood backing is glued in place covering the hole, would I still try to cut a piece of drywall and screw it ontop of that? or do I use a thick layer of tile adhesive ontop of the plywood and put the new tile back? I still do have a small gap that is behind the drywall, as it is actually not flush to the existing drywall, so I don't think the 2x4 is a stud.
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys, I think I have a plan, I will try to find maybe a thin (1/4" or 3/8") piece of plywood - drill a hole or two in it and try to epoxy glue it around the hole. Then I will glue a piece of drywall to that as my backing then even things out with maybe some drywall compound. I hope this works! My only concern is if this glue does not hold I guess.

    Seeing it is such a small job, would this pre-mixed adhesive/grouting work ok?

    http://www.homedepot.ca/product/pre-mixed-tile-adhesive-grout/921897

    I need adhesive and I can use it as grouting, or does anyone recommend anything else?
     
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    Once you have a strip of backing glued in you can screw the drywall to it. Pre mixed compound for drywall. adhesive for the tile and grout are three different products
     
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    ok, thanks again, the link I had on this website is adhesive/grout, all in one, maybe its best I use the proper stuff? thought this would be an easier product to use as they advertise it as both adhesive and grout.
     
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    I haven't seen that and doubt it.
     

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