I don't get it, there are new members on a daily basis, a fair amount of activity and this site is obviously listed with Google, as that's how I found my way here. So why then is the Google page rank zero? My little tool auctions site and my portfolio site both have decent page rank and they hardly get any traffic at all. It seems if HRT is getting new visitors on a daily basis, upping the page rank will probably multiply the activity here tenfold or more. It seems this not-so-little forum could enjoy a lot more activity. Some issues I'd suggest: Incoming links The more links coming in from other sites, especially those with relevant content, will provide a big boost in page rank. Suggestion If you have a home improvement related website, consider adding a link to these forums. User Friendly URLs It's a highly debated issue of whether search engine friendly URLs matters, as most of the popular search engines do indeed crawl cryptic URLs. However, when people search they look at the URL and the fact is, more people are more likely to click on a URL they can read. Suggestion Webmaster, I believe there are vBulletin extensions available for converting cryptic URLs to human readable urls which are free to download and use. Definitely something worth looking into. Please accept my apologies if I'm stepping out of bounds by bringing this up. I know I'm the new guy here, but I think it's in everyone's best interest and warrants some consideration. Those of us with links to our website(s) in our signature obviously would like more traffic. And I know hosting this forum isn't free, so more traffic means more advertising revenue. Also, we always encourage visitors to come back and keep us updated on their projects, as I've witnessed in many of the replies from the regulars around here. Bottom line is, I think HRT could be a lot more popular with not much effort.