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  1. Mar 11, 2019 #1

    DIYRay70

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    Hi,

    I need some advice on the area the photo shown. This wood exposes outside to the weather and I'm afraid the water or termite will get in. Is there something that I can use to cover up the area?


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    The wood is ground contact treated so insects should leave it alone and it should stand up to some water. It is 3" above the deck so it shouldn't be subject to flooding. Today if it was being installed, we assume there will be condensation and eventually a leak and windows and doors are set on a pan to catch that and send it out the bottom.
     
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    How far does that threshold extend out beyond the 4 X 4?
    Sure looks like a huge gap under that threshold looking at that picture.
    Aluminum should never had been in direct contact with Pressure treated wood.
     
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    Based on all the puncture slits I would that wood is pressure treated and probably ground contact rated.
     
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    How about a more panoramic photo.
     
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    more pic to share

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    Just to be clear, panoramic means to step back and photo the door/window, and the stucco on both sides.

    It improves the prospective.

    What is interesting is the drain hole, which indicates a window, and also the end of the weep screed, which indicates a corresponding floor level beyond.

    What is usually done is that the WPT is lathed with expanded metal lath and the stucco is applied below the window/door down to the patio slab.
     
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    #1, Door was installed wrong, there should have been a sill pan or at least flashing as in the posted video.
    Repeat of the same question, how far does that threshold stick out beyond the threshold?
    If it's more than 3/4" I'd be installing 1 X 6 vinyl lumber under the threshold on the face of the wall and calling it a day.
     
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    They do not use sill pans in southern CA, the door sills are set on a bead of caulking applied directly to the slab.

    There is no threshold.

    Look at the last photo. That's a weep hole found in windows.
     
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    And what does the caption in the first picture say?
    It's a sliding door.
     
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    Been working there for 45yrs. and never used them.

    And Ive never seen a door mounted on a WPT sill, with a weep hole.
     
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    Sill pans with drain plane became code here in 2006
    Our concrete is missing where we do a pour strip 1x2 in the form so we have nothing to nail the flange to so we set that slider on a treated 2x4.
    the flooring guys like that they can do a shoe molding at the door on the inside.
    This one does seem to be missing the flange and looks like maybe it was stuccoed at one time. Stucco might have been removed to let water out.
     
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    There is also the requirement that the structure be 6" above grade.

    There is very little siding or brick work in this area, because of the area's tectonics.

    The patio being after market may have subverted that, if in-fact it was, or the stucco may have been carelessly removed and what we see is the end, corrected, result.
     
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    Thanks for all the comments! But do I need to place something in the area to cover? It's been pouring rain in my area and doesn't want to have the area get soak.
     
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    See post #7, 1st sentence.
     
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    Hope got this pic right this time.


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    Thanks, that's better.

    What is usually done is that the WPT is lathed with expanded metal lath and the stucco is applied below the window/door. You can trim a section of weep screed, to fit, and then install the expanded metal lath and MISSION Exterior Speedy Patch to re-establish the aesthetics.

    The more I look at this, the greater I am of the opinion that this may have originally been a window and something else was installed in the exact opening width. Because of the staining on the slab between the cut ends of the weep screed, there was a section of weep screed removed.
     
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    The wood is treated for insects. You can put trim there to help with the splash water but keep the trim 1" off the deck, don't glue it or seal to the wood.
    You can caulk the top where it meets the vinyl. You can buy vinyl wood for the trim, if you use wood it wants to be primed on all sides with oil based primer.
     
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    It looks like there was stuccoed at one time, maybe it failed and some one just removed it, the wood looks new and in good shape and with no flange on the bottom of the window, maybe the wood had been replace. That would have been a fun job.
     

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