Quantcast

No corona virus thread???

Help Support House Repair Talk:

Spicoli43

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2020
Messages
143
Reaction score
58
Location
Montana
"He has exposed how much of a Fraud he is over this entire year "

I've paid attention like most folks, but I missed the whole deal about him 'exposing his fraud'. Please post your facts, and none of that childlike conspiracy nonsense, please. Oh, and I'm not interested on somebody's take on the media, the left, the right, or any of that.

Just the facts.
I'm actually content with you not knowing.
 

havasu

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 20, 2010
Messages
4,233
Reaction score
205
My son has the "Vid". He lost sense of taste and smell, and had a sore throat for a day. He said it was just like the flu to him. He refused to get tested to prove this lock down is pure BS. He is on his way to Glamis to ride his quad thru the sand dunes.
 

Spicoli43

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2020
Messages
143
Reaction score
58
Location
Montana
Good news. Just got back from the doctor's office. Covid test was negative but I had a fever & my sinuses were inflamed. Seems to be a sinus infection so I've been put on prednisone and antibiotics for 2 weeks. I was told that just in case it was a false negative I should still continue to distance myself, wear a mask, and wash my hands frequently until my symptoms are gone.
Nasal swab wasn't so bad but it made my left eye drip & made the inside of my nostrils itch for about a minute afterward. Probably wouldn't have been as annoying if I didn't have inflammation in my sinuses.
Doctor told me to get plenty of rest and fluids.
GOOD! I had that early on in Covid where half my head was stuffed up. I call it my Covid without knowing. I inhaled enough Vitamin C to kill it off and was normal the next day.
 

femgroup

Active Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2020
Messages
26
Reaction score
11
I'm actually content with you not knowing.

After reading your post, you appear to be content with not knowing a whole lot YOURSELF (either that, or you just didn't have the facts to support your statements. Same difference.).
 

femgroup

Active Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2020
Messages
26
Reaction score
11
My son has the "Vid". He lost sense of taste and smell, and had a sore throat for a day. He said it was just like the flu to him. He refused to get tested to prove this lock down is pure BS. He is on his way to Glamis to ride his quad thru the sand dunes.
Looks like that proved it.
 

Flyover

Trying not to screw things up worse
Joined
Jan 6, 2017
Messages
658
Reaction score
400
Location
Oh Hah
But, which of the ," scientists" are we suppose to follow? Seems they don't agree.
Yeah, it's strange to me when people talk about science as if it's a set of permanent truths. At most, there is temporarily a general (though almost never absolute) consensus among scientists on very specific facts, at least as borne out from certain experimental conditions. This is good: if scientists all agreed on things, especially on broad statements, they'd be doing their jobs wrong. But of course we can't expect the mass public to understand how the institution of science works any more than we'd expect them to understand the particulars of housing construction codes.

I think the spirit of the sticker is supposed to be something like "I'm not one of those religious people, or one of those conspiracy-oriented people", phrased in a maximally divisive and arrogant way.
 

Flyover

Trying not to screw things up worse
Joined
Jan 6, 2017
Messages
658
Reaction score
400
Location
Oh Hah
One of the strange things about modernity is that everyone has access to, and in some cases is practically force-fed, highly technical information they can't actually digest. Terms like "transmission vector" have come into everyday household use in a population with an average 3rd-grade reading level. This produces a lot of people who think they know what they're talking about, but don't.

I'm not an epidemiologist or infectious disease scientist. I would be wasting my time trying to read epidemiology/infectious disease journals. But my alternative is to trust someone to break down what those journals are saying into language and concepts I can understand, which isn't always possible. Unfortunately for most people this role gets filled by journalists or else by politicians. (I pay attention to neither and advise you don't as well.)
 

slownsteady

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Joined
Jun 5, 2009
Messages
7,062
Reaction score
1,387
Location
Sussex County, NJ
Well thought out Flyover, and you may have hit the nail on the head (appropriate for houserepairtalk). It explains how a person (even a scientist) can say one thing in February based on what is known, and then have to change course in April when additional facts show themselves. We are all learning about this thing in real time. And if you can't correct yourself when faced with new knowledge, you might as well stick to banging stones together.
 

slownsteady

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Joined
Jun 5, 2009
Messages
7,062
Reaction score
1,387
Location
Sussex County, NJ
Problem with the media.... ALL media..... is that they have to make noise all the time (fill the airwaves), so they take whatever bit of info they can find and they shout repeatedly until the next bit of info surfaces. Lather, rinse, repeat.
 

femgroup

Active Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2020
Messages
26
Reaction score
11
Problem with the media.... ALL media..... is that they have to make noise all the time (fill the airwaves), so they take whatever bit of info they can find and they shout repeatedly until the next bit of info surfaces. Lather, rinse, repeat.
My lips are sealed. For the betterment of the site.
 

zannej

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2014
Messages
2,299
Reaction score
704
I miss the days of Edward R Murrow when it was straight up facts and actual news and not meant to be entertainment to get ratings. It wasn't filled with speculation and opinion. I also miss the Fairness Doctrine.

I have a friend who is a journalist and she said that scientists (at least the ones she talked to) knew a lot more than the media released back in February about the spread of the virus and how to prevent it but they were told they couldn't publish that info. She talked to multiple virologists who were getting info that wasn't being filtered through politics and they knew how bad it was and she felt guilty that her news outlet wouldn't let her publish so she was warning people on social media. Not quite sure why they weren't allowed to publish, but I think it was because what she was being told directly from scientists was contradicting the messaging from the World Health Organization- who was at the time withholding information because they were afraid it would cause panic and that doctors and nurses wouldn't have enough PPE.

I'm still feeling crappy. For the first day my nasal passages were clear-- the scrubber thingies for the test actually cleaned them out so I could breathe better than I'd been breathing in months. But the mucus is back and so is the headache. Generally feeling tired and off-kilter. My balance and coordination aren't great. Mom was mad at my brother today because he was supposed to cook for her but he was too busy playing video games.

Mark, is your son going alone or will someone be with him to make sure he's OK? Even if he wasn't sick, I would hope there would be someone to be able to call for help if he has an accident.
 

Flyover

Trying not to screw things up worse
Joined
Jan 6, 2017
Messages
658
Reaction score
400
Location
Oh Hah
I miss the days of Edward R Murrow when it was straight up facts and actual news and not meant to be entertainment to get ratings. It wasn't filled with speculation and opinion.
Exactly the myth I think needs to be debunked first:
As much as I like to point out the emperor isn't wearing any clothes with respect to what journalism fundamentally is, I actually think journalism today is a lot less biased than it used to be. Walter Cronkite, Ed Murrow, etc. were shameless opinionators -- they just knew to deliver their opinions in a very buttoned up way, in a calm tone of voice, a cigarette gracefully balanced in one hand so they took on the air of a professor or a wise old friend. The trick worked, and everybody thought "Wow there's a guy who's really giving it to me straight."
 

68bucks

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 15, 2015
Messages
154
Reaction score
52
My son has the "Vid". He lost sense of taste and smell, and had a sore throat for a day. He said it was just like the flu to him. He refused to get tested to prove this lock down is pure BS. He is on his way to Glamis to ride his quad thru the sand dunes.
If your son didn't hlget the test how do you know he had the "
My son has the "Vid". He lost sense of taste and smell, and had a sore throat for a day. He said it was just like the flu to him. He refused to get tested to prove this lock down is pure BS. He is on his way to Glamis to ride his quad thru the sand dunes.
Assuming he does have the virus how does not taking a test confirming that prove anything about a lock down? And does feel like screw it, I have it, I really don't care who I give it to? I don't understand why he wouldn't want to lay low a while and get over it instead of spreading it around. Just curious.
 

Fireguy5674

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 14, 2012
Messages
278
Reaction score
64
Location
Central Illinois
Many people are asymptomatic. They don't feel bad at all. They are lucky, but can spread the disease. If they choose to knowingly do so because it is inconvenient for them to stay at home they are just selfish. They are the same as those who choose not to wear masks because they are uncomfortable.

If people would consider the other person instead of only themselves there might not be 360,000 souls 6' under. It may all be a hoax, but if you look at mortality rates, something is causing a lot of extra people to die.
 

havasu

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 20, 2010
Messages
4,233
Reaction score
205
As far as my son, he drove alone, met a deputy who is also on covid lockdown, then drove home alone. He works with a group of 7 deputies, who have all tested positive for the vid, all had the same flu symptoms, for 2 days, and after staying home for 10 days, returned back to work. All are fine.

Who are the people not wearing the masks? All grocery stores, all hardware stores, all essential facilities have a mask mandates, but people are still contracting this virus. Why is this?
 

Flyover

Trying not to screw things up worse
Joined
Jan 6, 2017
Messages
658
Reaction score
400
Location
Oh Hah
I was just at the auction house today. I would say 1 out of 5 people was wearing their mask down below their nose, some with their top lip showing. Basically a chin diaper at that point. That might be one clue.

Anyway, the masks aren't going to stop the virus 100% of the time, they are going to reduce the likelihood of transmission by some percentage. Especially if combined with distancing (which people at the auction house also were not doing.) We ended up leaving early without one of my items because I decided the risk wasn't worth the 4 dollar item I was having trouble finding.
 

havasu

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 20, 2010
Messages
4,233
Reaction score
205
What I am saying is how any mask, short of a respirator or N95 mask will do nothing to stop a 3 micron virus, when they are wearing cloth or typical masks that allow a 10 micron opening?
 
Top