Vinyl Hardwood Planks

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    My fiancé and cousin are laying vinyl hardwood planks in my foyer. The entry part near the door is slab and carpet has been removed from the other part. They had to lay 1/4" wafer board to even that part of the floor with the slab. They started to lay the planks (which do have adhesive tabs around the edge) against the wall edge of the slab and wafer board, but the planks are not adhering to the floor. Should they prep the slab and board with a primer and/or sealer and adhesive before they lay the planks?
     
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    On a slab there needed to be a vaper barrier before anything went down. I never would have used wafter board on a floor like that, The moisture will make it fall apart.
    I would have also used Allour flooring, it's a floating vinyl strip flooring and would have needed no glue at all.
    What type do you have? Has anyone taken the time to read the directions on the box to see what's called for.
    Also there's no such thing as vinyl hardwood planks, there either hardwwod or vinyl. They may just look like hardwood.
     
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    I've laid a few hundred boxes of Allour and never used any adhesive, It's a floating floor system.
    I would first lay down 15 LB roofing felt over any bare slab taping the seams with packing tape. Then use a layer of 1/4 sanded plywood that gets Tap Coned to the floor using 5/16 flat head screws. (Tap Cons are special screws for concrete)
    The Allour has a strip of adhesive under a strip of paper that gets peeled off and each piece is strick to the next one, not directly to the floor. That type flooring expands and contracts some so a gap must be left between the walls and the flooring or it will buckle.
    Allure Flooring Instructions | eHow.com
     
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    Thanks you've been a great help!
     
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    Its unbelievable how much bad advice I see on here.
     
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    ?... I think joe has it spot on.... No?
     
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    No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Dude that stuff is easier putting down then P&S you can't mess it up I prefer laminate interlocking but that's me but on a slab you need to use a underlayment barrier like that.
     
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    Ok so where did I go wrong? We all have something to learn here, so help me out with better info for this poster.
     
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    It is never a good idea to put plywood on a concrete floor. Every hole the tapcons make will allow moisture to come thru and cause the plywood to rot. Every time I have seen plywood put on concrete it has failed.
     
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    And what would you suggest? If it's 1/4 tile board that's not water proof and may act like a sponge since you could not lay down a vaper barrier and thin set it in place.
    I've done a few dozen of them in my area including my own slab home that the slab sets below grade (and it's got a really high water table) by sealing the floor, adding a 6 Mil. vaper barrier, use 1-1/2 Tap-Cons (The slabs going to be 4" thick) and a dab of silicone shot into the holes before the screw goes in and have never had a call back.
     
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    The only time you would have problem with what Joe has suggested is when the perimiter drain isn't doing it's job. For many years now we have had poly under the slab so there would be no problem.
     
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    The slab should be deep enough were the taps or spax won't harm the slab.
     

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