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Well 2 hours later and $275.00 less in my wallet I have a working living room fixture. He ended up running new wires from the J box in the attic to my new fixture and to my switch location, also rewired my dining room fixture. Thanks all for the help, learned a lot with this project...

The house was built in 1947 but has the breaker box located in the front side of the house. I think that is what you are asking.

He was asking about the dining room box, but wanted me to check what the switches did as I flipped them.

He asked me to check what it did with flipping the switch and I told him it made no difference. There’s is always a hot feed on the single wire and the 3 grouped wires, flipping the switch made no difference. Then I mentioned that the diner fixture works fine with everything connected before I...

We are now looking at the diner wire box, that is the one you questioned the wires and what they did with the switch on or off. Not using a digital meter. Just a probe that you touch the wires with. Lights up green, red when hot.

Yes, the single wire is a hot live wire and also the 3 grouped wires are hot.

Sorry about the delay. No change with switch on or off. Everything connected it did turn the light on and off. But switch off or on there is power to the single wire and the 3 grouped wires.

Hey no worries, I really appreciate the effort. Thanks.

No, looks like one white and two blacks.

With the fixture disconnected no. But not sure if that matters. Switch on or off no power on it.

I only have about 2 feet of crawl space in my attic, plus all the ducts from my ac/heater unit all in the way. I do remember seeing a J box in a far corner where all the wires come out of. To drop the new wiring to the switch and to the new fixture was a nightmare for me being 6’ tall and...

The single one and the 3 grouped ones are always constant hot, I have a probe, the two grouped together have no power and also don’t get power when I flip the switch but not sure if it’s because the fixture is disconnected.

Yes, that’s all of them, but I did noticed that they came into the box from different directions. Did you get my edit where I forgot to mention in my original post that the “free” wire in my switch box is live/hot with power on at the breaker box?

It was connected to that single wire and to the two twisted wires. The three grouped wires were tucked in the way they are now.

Yes, power off at breaker box. If I run the switch one of the two twisted wires to grouped whites and wirenut the remaining one, then what other do I connect to the diner fixture since it will be only leaving me with one wire. Or did you mean to wirenut it to the fixture? I forgot to mention in...

Ok guys, I finally jumped right in to get it done. I removed the diner fixture like Snoonyb said I found the grouped white as the 3 taped up and the one I’m suppose to join to them is the one going to the switch from the two grouped ones shown. Correct so far? I then reattach the other remaining...

Yes, originally there were two switches, one for the kitchen and one for the diner. Since I didn’t want to cut in a 3 gang box I went with the double switch and added a second switch for the living room in the same 2 gang box. One switch (kitchen) originally had the 3 wires and the second one...

Just not sure where to do the changes, I mean you explain it pretty well but to someone like me that has no knowledge of how everything works is kind of confusing. I was hoping the changes were just in the switch box and the new fixture box. I’m more of a diagram guy I guess. But I do appreciate...

Hello, anyone know of a good cleaner to get cooking grease build up off stained wooded cabinets? Either off the shelf or home made. Thanks.

Well, calling a pro in. Anyone in San Diego up for the job?