kok328, you are the "the man". i have been following the electrical and hvac parts of this forum. i am an old electrician who has been going to hvac school for awhile. being an electrician is one thing, but being a service tech is an entirely different ball game. i have been learning about motors, capacitors, relays, and the such and have been enjoying the schooling immensely. your answers have always been right on target. out of 25,000 people in my hometown they are probably two people here that have the overall knowledge i have seen you display over and over again. my hat is off to you. one question though. would the above problem be a start capacitor? does a compressor have an internal start capacitor on it? do some compressors have an internal start while others don't or do none have internal capacitors? thanks, buddy