SabrToothSqrl
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So, I have a propane water heater, from when my house was built in 2008. Apparently propane was a crap ton (actual measurement) cheaper in 2008, than 2015.
According to the yellow sticker, it burns 265 gallons of propane a year to heat water. That's about $800 considering my local propane prices.
(Back Story) My dog destroyed our A/C unit by using it for the past 4 years as a urinal. (massive corrosion, just DESTROYED) So, we replaced it with a heat pump, which now cools AND heats the house. The primary heat is now a heat pump, and the backup is a propane furnace for when the heat pump can't hack it, or it's super cold out. (PA)
Anyway, that's the thing that got me thinking about home energy costs, and trying to save some money (actually buying a Tesla Model S got me thinking about my electric bill but that's another story). (I have a Solar City story too). The heat pump, I'm hoping, saves us $500/year, using electricity (11.8c kWh) vs propane $$$.
Finally, back to the Water Heater. $800/year, for hot water? That's just stupid.
I found they make Heat Pump based Water Heaters. According to the energy sticker, it uses... $190 / year! (12c kWh). that's close enough to my 11.8 for me to save over $600/year!
It wasn't a cheap water heater at $1,100, but a 10% coupon, 5% cash back, and $400 PP&L rebate made it... $540!
This thing pays for it's self in ONE year, with a $600/year savings after that.
How is anyone NOT buying these things?
Anyway, the real reason I'm here. Installation. I will not be removing my old water heater, as it works fine, and propane may one day be $0.50/gallon, right? (lol).
So, I'll be installing a valve on the IN to the old one (a valve on the OUT is currently in place).
Draining the old one, and installing the new one next to it, with a vale on the in and out, so I can run either system I chose based on energy price. (I don't really see propane ever dropping, but why rip out a working system)?
So, the manual says it's 30 amp... does that mean I need a 30 amp breaker? 10/2 wire good?
It needs a drain, unlike my current one (also needs 240v unlike my current one), but I'm hoping this isn't too hard of an install, and I can leave the old one running until the new one is in and solid, so I don't feel rushed to get this done...
anyone here install one of these? It's going in the basement, which was always kind of humid. This thing's side effect is that it cools and dries the room it's in, so that's kind of a bonus for a basement...
According to the yellow sticker, it burns 265 gallons of propane a year to heat water. That's about $800 considering my local propane prices.
(Back Story) My dog destroyed our A/C unit by using it for the past 4 years as a urinal. (massive corrosion, just DESTROYED) So, we replaced it with a heat pump, which now cools AND heats the house. The primary heat is now a heat pump, and the backup is a propane furnace for when the heat pump can't hack it, or it's super cold out. (PA)
Anyway, that's the thing that got me thinking about home energy costs, and trying to save some money (actually buying a Tesla Model S got me thinking about my electric bill but that's another story). (I have a Solar City story too). The heat pump, I'm hoping, saves us $500/year, using electricity (11.8c kWh) vs propane $$$.
Finally, back to the Water Heater. $800/year, for hot water? That's just stupid.
I found they make Heat Pump based Water Heaters. According to the energy sticker, it uses... $190 / year! (12c kWh). that's close enough to my 11.8 for me to save over $600/year!
It wasn't a cheap water heater at $1,100, but a 10% coupon, 5% cash back, and $400 PP&L rebate made it... $540!
This thing pays for it's self in ONE year, with a $600/year savings after that.
How is anyone NOT buying these things?
Anyway, the real reason I'm here. Installation. I will not be removing my old water heater, as it works fine, and propane may one day be $0.50/gallon, right? (lol).
So, I'll be installing a valve on the IN to the old one (a valve on the OUT is currently in place).
Draining the old one, and installing the new one next to it, with a vale on the in and out, so I can run either system I chose based on energy price. (I don't really see propane ever dropping, but why rip out a working system)?
So, the manual says it's 30 amp... does that mean I need a 30 amp breaker? 10/2 wire good?
It needs a drain, unlike my current one (also needs 240v unlike my current one), but I'm hoping this isn't too hard of an install, and I can leave the old one running until the new one is in and solid, so I don't feel rushed to get this done...
anyone here install one of these? It's going in the basement, which was always kind of humid. This thing's side effect is that it cools and dries the room it's in, so that's kind of a bonus for a basement...